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Added a scrog net and did some deleafing. A lollipop each plant. Remove all insignificant Bud sites.

 

Now running 3-30k cmh 315 lights and 9 far red 730 nanometer LED bars.
Added one extra light to the array last Wednesday. Lower the temperature down again today to try and Achieve 72 degrees or thereabouts. As right now it's still running around 79 degrees. Fed today with Mother Earth Juice bloom a handful of worm castings and a handful of raw dark brown sugar. Watered deeply. Adjusted the plants so they were more into the scrog net lifted up straggling or long enough branches it would reach up inside the scrog net and adjusted to fit.
Buds are looking excellent at this stage. There pretty good size for an organic grow. The bud's are dank and they're starting to get a nice smell to them.

 

The plants have hit the beginning of week 5. 5 week's to go to harvest.
I have Change the lighting from 30k bulbs to 42k bulbs and left the far red LED light bars in place and on.
What we will achieve is to create more flavor and more trikes by adding the more u v in this part of the grow cycle.
2 more week's I'll add the 10k deep blue high uv bulb. At 2 hour's a day in 15 minute intervals. Is this bulb is a super bright bulb. It's like looking at a welding flash.

MG-25


Headband A&B

 

Haven't started cloning yet. As my plants weren't quite straight enough for me to take clones. Couple more days. The seedlings have cracked and started to grow. I lost a few seeds. Couple of them stalled out and died. A couple of them to head popped off. Shit happens. nice weather is coming up. The Summer grow will be starting soon. Can't Hardly Wait. I am so tired of growing inside. Bucking Light bill is out of control.

 

Getting closer. Starting week 8

Mg-25 There looking real well. The buds are hard lots of trichomes super greasy. Buds are about the size of an average coffee cup. Doing some different techniques this time around doing some high stress training. So I'm keeping the conditions very dry warm runner on 80 83 degrees humidities running around 27%. I've been following a technique from an outside grow it out and Emerald Triangle California or he's been growing in the mountains for about 30 years. And girls organically commercially and he does not take care of the plants like I do. He keep some pretty rough shape. Claiming that the bud ends up being better in the end. Less yield but better Bud. He's following techniques like they do for the wine vineyards. Interesting techniques I am seeing benefits to this visually. But of course the proof is in the pudding.

Mg25



Headband

 

Seedlings are ready for transplanting.
Mother are ready for cloning.
2 day's more and game on.

 

Good question.
Thanks for stopping in @Jsaunders

Alright I'll give you a quick fill in on what's going on here this is a strain local genetics. I work for a couple of commercial growers in the area and these strains are called
modified grapes. 25 . There's 6 mg 25 and there are 2 headband 1 is an hb A and 1 is a hb B they are crossed with what I do not know. I just know they're pretty good. The mg-25 is definitely really good and I like the mg 25 a lot and it is a easy plant to grow. Both these plants are thinned branched genetics. But both produce a nice fruity bouquet with an extraordinary really good t h c count and the genetics are preferred in this area for whatever reason. I don't know? but a lot of people like them anyways.
So in this particular run. (First off I got to say is I like to play with lights. I work with light recipes. That's my job.)

So This run was clones as soon as they were ready to pot they went for a 2 weeks veg, and then straight into flowering. I use my custom super soil which is a all organic blend of mine.
And is designed to go to the full course with minimal organic feeding. As I only fed this entire crop 2 times. With Mother Earth bloom one time and once with Boogie Brew tea with C90 Rare Earth minerals. Also added in the Boogie Brew tea 1 of worm castings and Brew the tea for 3 days before application.

So The light stores started out with 41k 315cmh bulbs 2 week veg.
Then to 30k 315 CMH bulbs and 730 nm far red led light bars for the 1st 4 week of flowering. At the start of week 5 changed out the 30k bulbs to the 41k bulbs and left the 730 nm far red LEDs in place and on.

That brings me to today.
Today is another light change. Or add-on I should say.
Today we're adding a 10K 315 CMH bulb which is a very far blue high UV blue bulb. This bulb will be on 2 hours a day in 15 minute increments. For hardening and finishing.
Also today we're dropping the light time down from 12 hours on to 9 hours on.
Also I was supposed to drop the temperature down so that it runs in the low 70s high 60s. And the humidity was supposed to be around 55% 60%. Relative humidity.
But because I have a p.m. problem here in this grow room. It is...I can't shake it because my whole neighborhoods got p.m. everywhere and it's just impossible for me to get rid of it totally... I've tried everything been growing for a long time here in this spot. (Short of showering and a clean room with Tyvek suits) So I've painted the whole entire basement and grow room with Zimmer's mold killing paint. 14 gallons at $34 a gallon.
I still get it. I don't get it on the walls anymore and rafters because of it's all painted. But I still get it on the plant's from time to time if the humidity is too high and the temperature too low... So I'm not chancing it. Nope I don't want to spray anything this time.
So I opted in for this other technique that I described above.
And continue with the lighting changes. And see how this light recipe comes out with these products.

So far so good. Very pleased with my outcome so far. With these technique. I have cut down to Farmers run time by 5 weeks. But want to boost my yields up. I will need to add 2 more weeks to my veg time. Maybe ? So next run will be a 3 week veg. To see what my yields come out like. And then one more run after that at 4 weeks veg. Then compare to all 3 runs yield number's.
The farmer veggs for 10 weeks and flowers for 10 week's. Thier yields average about 112gs pr plant finished product. Under high end full spectrum LED lights.
I'm not impressed with their numbers. Also they seem to have a lot of smaller buds. And they are also using synthetic Organics. (Bottled nutes) with CO2.
Where I am 100% or 99.9% organic without CO2. I'm already doing better in a shorter time.
I may add CO2 after these next two runs and I've compared first 3 runs. CO2 is definitely a growth factor when calculating these recipes that I do.
But I'm just trying to prove a point to myself and these 2 Farmers that a lot can be done with Organics and not chemicals...

So you want to see the stocks. here you are.

These plants are all in 5 gal pots with about 4 gallons of soil .

 

That's a nice looking crop...

I see you use a lot of techniques. Training techniques are super important.. I'm a firm believer in training techniques. Topping, super cropping, lst, est, scrog netting, deleaving, manifolding , all of them. Some techniques I haven't really tried yet like stabbing the stalk with a knife. But I figured the stabbing a stock with a knife is about the same as super cropping except for it's kind of like super cropping the whole plant. Which I guess that makes perfect sense.
The real reason that I do any training techniques is cuz I'm an old gorilla grower. And stealth was key back in the day. So pulling a plant over and tying it close to the ground and keeping it down to the ground was Paramount for stealth. And I just come to find out that tying a plant down allowed for the plant to grow more Bud sites and a lot more quality Bud came out of that plant. it took me a few years to figure that out back in the 80s. But now I do it everywhere all the time in every grow inside or outside it does make a difference.. Probably the main reason I do it inside is because my ceiling in my grow room is very short. I only got just less than 7 ft in my grow room and the lights hanging at 6 ft. And the bulbs actually hang at 5 ft 1 in. So I don't have much head space in my grow room. And that's one reason why the two-week veg as well. but the grow room is sealed as I had said above the PM is terrible. So I tried to keep my grow room as surgically clean as possible. But to no avail it's still gets in there. It's just a fact of growing in this house and in this yard and in this neighborhood. LOL Doom Despair and Agony On Me Right. LOL I know if I was to spend the money on UV lighting and humidifiers and dehumidifiers and everything else..shit I'm just trying to grow some weed right. I don't make enough often this to have all that stuff. LOL. I'm just a little testing facility. License to grow 24 between me and my old lady.
But growing like I'm growing right now with this particular technique that I'm using (knock on wood) I've only had 1 spot of mildew. As I said above I corrected that by turning my heat back on and bringing my humidity back down.
That Sure did run my light bill up higher cuz I use an electric heater. This run right here is the highest electrical bills I've ever had since I started growing inside years ago. My light bill with water and sewer and only running 3-315 CMH lights and the electric heater and one other electric heater for my front porch for my animals. The Bill is over 450.00 Dam I about fell over. The last 2 bills in a row have been that high. Thank God only got 2 weeks to go and this runs is going to be done. Can't wait...Lol

 

Almost ready to harvest.

The Mg 25 is pretty close.



Modified grapes 25.
These buds are sticky icky oouiy gooey dank hard ass buds.

This recipe was. Clone, 5 gallon with about 4 gallons custom organic fortified soil to last the entire 12 week veg and flowering growth cycle. Beginning to end one soil. I fed Mother Earth Bloom w extra worm castings and phytoplankton tea 2 times during the entire cycle.
Other than that nothing but water when needed once a week. Maybe? That would depend on how dry they really were. As I let them dry out a lot.

The Relative humidity was between 27% and 38% average through the entire grow. The temperature was held between 77 and 83 Fahrenheit through the entire grow. Water was filtered city water. Did not pH. 100% organic grow. No synthetic chemicals at all.

I use drying techniques in the growth Cycles. Where the plant was dried out significantly to where they
dropped. "Let's put it this way they were beat up big time all the way through this grow. As I used techniques like can be found in fine wine vineyards in California Mountain grown wine." Where natural conditions replicate dry arid glow moisturizer Mountainside grow. The only thing I did not replicate is if the air was thin or not. ie. less oxygen.
In the 2/w veg cycle I used to 315 cmh 30k light with far red LED bars in the 730 nanometer range. Held those lights until the 6th week a flowering. Entering the 6th week of flowering end of 5, I then changed the 30k bulbs out and switch to 315 cmh 41k bulbs w/ the far red led bars. At the beginning of week 7 I added a 315 CMH 10k far blue UV bulb. On for 2 hour a day in 15 minute increments. This is the lighting presently today. And will maintain this until the Harvest.

Mg25 bud's.
They are solid like a rock. Lots of grease on them lots of trench. I am now a firm believer in this recipe that I used in this grow is
These buds are superior to the buds that the farmer I work for grows underneath his conditions and how he grows. Using commercial grade high end Lux LED lights. And synthetic liquid feed.
This particular recipe made these buds superior to the buds he grows. These are more dank and certainly there is much more trench on them. I believe the smoke will probably taste better due to my past research on this subject using High UV light. As a finisher. As in the past with strains that I worked with using recipes with higher uv-light. The buds did have better flavor than the buds underneath the far-red technology to harvest.
Although there was more yield underneath the far red technology, the end product was still good it was very good actually.
But the blue technology in the end was a little better. It really helps with the flavor and it also kicked out more trench and there's more color.
I expect the same with this Harvest.

I'll let you all know

 

Headband A and Headband B
Same techniques as the above.

 

I agree I can't wait to see what the yields going to be like. I'm expecting pretty solid about ounce and a half per plant of quality AAA bud.
Although I didn't do this process for yield I was looking for dank , color and flavor in this run. But with a little bit longer veg under the 30k and far red LEDs. It will definitely produced a larger yield. It will be able to produce much more bud sites and branches. Next time I run this inside the mg25 and the headbands I'll run them with a 4 week veg. To compare the difference. Doing the same techniques I actually have probably have an extra Branches to the top in that amount of time. so it'll definitely produced more just because of that alone. But with the far-red technology it'll produce more branches to top and more Bud sites

 

Absolutely yes. thank you.

Yes I glean a lot of my Technics from the fruit industry. Those techniques are proven for millennium's I guess. So why wouldn't anybody want to try those proven flower, fruit, vegetable growing techniques on cannabis. It only makes sense that it's going to come out better. At lest one of them's going to work. And right now I think I'm really on to something. As I had said in a previous post. That I was following a guy out in California that lives on a west cost Mountainside in the Emerald Triangle and he's a organic or semi organic I should say
Commercial grower. Been growing in the same spot for about 30 years. I caught his video on Instagram or YouTube. Somewhere I caught it at. But his claim to fame on growing organically like he does. Is basically the same thing as what I described in the post above. about how I was trying to replicate that.
His cannabis again wasn't about yield it was about growing the best flower he could grow. And so I just took some of his tips and also gleaned from The Vineyards and said to myself "man this is got to be the ticket right here" So I tried to replicate it as best I can and do it on a budget LOL one thing I didn't do that I for whatever reason forgot to do was. I was going to lessen my amount of light time on from 12 hours to 9 hours on the last two weeks before harvest... and for whatever reason I forgot to throw that into the recipe... So the next time I grow these Mg25 , headband it'll be a 4 week veg and I have to run it like I ran this one in order to make a comparison.

Thanks for the input. The guy I work for. yes he does do the dry out. Also as you described. I had to think about that for a hot second cuz I don't usually work with him the last 3 weeks before Harvest. there's no reason for me to be there until harvesting day. As we all are working on a budget these days.

 

@mikeyboy64
This my grow spot.
Have a look C around.

 

Good question... Thanks for asking.

So other than the obvious saving money on electricity. As I am working on a budget. LOL. And that sure would've been nice right now.

But the other thing was, was to replicate the fall sun. Bringing my hours down to around 9 hours would replicate the end of September beginning of October sun. Also to bringing the temperature down to more fall temperature. As this was all to tighten the buds. But since I was unable to bring the temperature down. That's probably why I forgot about bringing the light time down.
It wasn't a big deal.
These techniques are thought to tighten the buds. Since I was unable to do those 2 different techniques and still achieve my desired outcome with the more blue and high UV seem to have really done it's job on that point. So far so good anyways.
The jury still out. I still have to cure it like the guy I work for cures his weed. And then of course the final smoke product see how it all comes out in the end.
Maybe by the end of the summer we'll get the try these techniques in the bigger grow with CO2 and Commercial liquid feed.

Next time I run inside with these plants. There will be a 4 weeks veg to increase my yield. The recipe won't change a lot. Other than the fact that I'll be running an extra two weeks in veg with the 30k bulbs and the far red LEDs.
So When in this light structure the plant thinks it's in the shade so when the plant thinks its in the shade. So it will stretch its branches more towards the light that it thinks it's going to find. Also it'll throw out more foliage looking for more light as well. So in this instance I'll do more training. ie. more topping, pruning, more super cropping.
I still have to remember that I have a very low ceiling. So these techniques will help me to produce a larger yield and better buds. As I only Farm AAA flower. I'm not into concentrates.

I'll be running these strains outside this summer too. It will be interesting see how they turn out running them in the natural Sun outside. Using manipulation techniques and growing organic.
I can't wait to see what the results are at the end of summer. If I can maintain tight dank buds and if I can keep the gooey Trench.