Was just thinking if Neem could be grown in the USA. This is the first page I read. Only page really. What are your thoughts to say growing neem plants around you MJ Plants? Could you make your own Neem products this way? Basicaly anyone tried or heard of Neem being grown in the USA? Also does the plant itself repel bugs? http://neemtreefarms.com/growing-instructions-a-22.html Looks like they would be great Camo plants for stealth as well.
I've heard of people keeping them growing down around the Homested Fl. area. Up here where I am we have China Berry trees which are a very close relative and also produce Azadarachtin. They are much more cold tolerant, and were initially introduced for erosion control on field lines. They were later used as wormers, insecticides, and such. They would boil the berries and water crops with the brew. Of course, in India, just like in other places, the berries, leaves, and bark from that family of trees has been used for centuries as medicine.
Neem does well in southern climates but won't do well outdoors in the PNW. The site you linked is in Florida and I think Weedroid ordered some trees from them and he lives in California. Lumperdawgz ordered some a couple years ago and he lives in Oregon. They didn't do well for him. I've wondered about grafting them to a rootstock suited for the PNW growing conditions. It would be cool to find that one rootstock that would support a neem tree in this growing zone. Chunk
What about the China Berry Chunk? Can it grow up there? I'm aware there a 2 or 3 compounds within it that differ from neem, but it does well here, where winters occasionally throw some 20 degree nights at us.
I actually answered my own question lol... http://sun.ars-grin.gov:8080/npgspub/xsql/duke/plantdisp.xsql?taxon=608 It's got all the nimb**** compounds for sure.
I'm not sure on that one Chunk. I'm assuming the chemical compounds are found in the leaves as well. The fruit is like a miniature percimmon, and is easy to mush into a pulp when it's ripe. They are everywhere here, and one thing is obvious is that there are only 1 or 2 insects that can feed on them. Some species of birds will eat the fruit. Also, it's the last tree on a fence row to be attacked by termites, if it occurs at all. I know for a fact that historically the renderings from the berries were used as systemic control for vegetable crops.
I just read on Wiki that the fruits are toxic to humans but birds will gorge themselves on them. I'm looking to see what the zone hardiness is. They sure a a beautiful tree and it says they are quite fragrant. Chunk
And their growth is pretty fast. I've been given the don't you ever put one of those in your mouth speeches when I was a little guy many times. I doubt very seriously that a sane human being could tolerate chewing up one of those LOL!! It's not exactly like a 5 year old would wander away from the blueberry bush and stuff his cakehole with chinaberries. Question: Would it be likely that the compounds that are toxic to humans have to be ingested in large doses to be toxic? My grandmother would be 110 this year but died at age 96, and told me about in her day that's what they used to keep bugs out of the garden. They shower canned the hell out of it with the tea.
This is a great idea. Made me think too.... Next time I go to the ocean I should bring home a big bag of kelp to dry or just toss in the compost heap. There are so many ways to lower the price and raise the quality of the products we grow with. It's fun to think about. I'm proud how little I spent this season and I know it's just going to get better and better, the more products I learn to make myself. Thanks for all the great info and inspiration guys.
The compounds would deconstruct into elements under the sunlight, much like those in neem. It's why we're instructed to apply all of our neem, lavender, mint, .....botanical teas in general, at lights out when growing indoors, or at dusk when growing outdoors. The Wiki page also talked of a mild chinaberry infusion made from the leaves and used to relax the uterus.
Hey Chunk, I thought I spotted neem trees in an old clearcut near the highway this afternoon. The leaves were turning and shedding. I can't be 100% positive, but they look like a dead ringer. I'm going to do a little closer investigating tomorrow.