I see a lot of GreenHouseSeed hating out there in lots of signatures and read negative comments about them somewhat frequently. I'm just wondering what the reasoning is. I've never dealt with them personally and was looking for you to share your experiences so that I could gain some insight. I'm east coast US so I wouldn't be ordering from them directly anyway so the shipping really does not concern me but more the product itself. Is there a quality issue?
Thieves and liars, inaccurate descriptions of strains, they have gone to other countries and encouraged the people there to stop growing the local landraces that have been there for thousands of years and to start growing their feminized dutch genetics, they steal genetics from other breeders, they buy the High Times Cannabis Cup every year, and they have atrocious customer service, if you find a male or a hermie in their seeds they tell you that it's impossible to get a hermaphrodite from their seeds because of their super secret "all feminization" process
It would seem that some of their strains are very poor to grow like "the church" that can be a problem plant, while others like the cup winning super lemon haze looks like a winner to smoke and to grow. Look at some journals around the city of people who use thier seeds and then make your mind up. Peace
Here's a little taste of the marketing BS they pull....here's some of the stuff they've released relating to their so called "Bubba Kush": YouTube - Kanaal van TheAttitudeInc(2:25-2:51) Not even close to being an accurate description of Bubba Kush ridiculous
I've got a couple GHS strains and I'm gonna have to say the seeds have performed very well.. White Rhino, Super Lemon Haze and Arjan's Haze #2.. all very good strains from GHS.. However the new chemdog + bubba kush they're trying to pull the wool of your heads.. Don't fall for their deceptive marketing and even more so, just boycott them by not buying these strains. When I heard they got a chemdawg clone i was jealous.. until i realized they just got 2 parental plants which are quite far off and then tried to cross em hoping their results equal what the actual plant is.. either way.. while GHS has some good genetics, they try to dominate the field by selling it all and if you participate in buying their new strains they wont stop.
Same deal with their Trainwreck, Cheese, King's Kush, and upcoming Jack Herer release which they claim to be Red Skunk x Haze And don't forget this tidbit.... They don't support you so why should you support them?
So true. They claim they get original cuts, as in the Trainwreck and Chemdog, which would mean they acquired them from US growers, yet they do not offer any support to US customers, which is over 80% of their seed sales......anyone else think this is odd. Well, I know first hand how they conduct business and use US breeders and growers, as well as get over on those new growers with little experience or knowledge of strains. Now they are hijacking Jack Herer to call their own. If Franco is such a great breeder, then why has he never been mentioned in any of the Italian cannabis magazines? IMHO, too many questions and not enough answer for me. Also, as I said, I know first hand how they do business when it comes to aquiring strains and strain names. Some people like thieves though....which I know first hand as well....like we said in prison: "birds of a feather flock together"
I ran their Lemon Skunk, and Haze 3. The LS stretched quite a bit in flower, but the smoke was excellent. Everyone thats tried it has had nothing but good things to say about it. It's a long lasting high. The Haze 3 was exactly as advertised, it was a short sativa stayed around 3ft. A very heady high not as strong as the Lemon Skunk. My experience with them so far was a good one, no complaints.
I know everyone likes to whinge about greenhouse, but i have grown AUH1 and AH3 and they were both excellent, had only one pheno that was no good, but hey where dealing with plant matter you get variation. And their lying about strains, its called marketing, they are a business, they want to make profit, its not like you haven't been lied to by corporations before. Plus most accusations of them being liars isn't usually backed up with hard facts. How do we know where they got the cuttings from has anyone spoken to the supplier? Anyone who understands business to some degree can see greenhouse is trying to maximize profits, and well i think it is working even with the haters out there. If you dont want to buy their strains then dont! Whats the point in whinging about it, and for the rest of you try out some of their strains and judge for yourself you may be pleasantly surprised.
out of 5 ssh seeds only one popped and is currently on week 3 of flower, out of 5 slh seeds only 2 survived..very disapointing to say the least...Im a big fan of dna now, they seem to have some super chronic!
Just because Greenhouse seeds is using the same corrupt business tactics as legal corporations does not make it okay nor does it warrant looking the other way. In the real world when a business sells you counterfeit merchandise you have the ability to take that business to court and sue them, we do not have that freedom in this situation. Quite the opposite, most accusations are backed up with hard facts. And yes, in many situations people have had conversations with the donators of the cuttings Greenhouse uses.... I had the same issue with their Straberry Haze, of course they blamed the bad germination ratios on me (rockwool, humdi-dome, heat pad set at 75F...).
to be honest blaze all day, for the time ive been reading the forums there hasn't really been much to back it up, just here say, he says this they say that. pretty hard to prove the truth. as i said if you dont like it leave it. A lot of people have this idea because it dope seeds there selling they should be super honest and earthy like good hippies, but unfortunately they are a company, and what is a companies main goal? to make a profit! so as i said before if you dont like it dont buy it, but there a plenty of happy customers that have bought GHS and gotten what they wanted otherwise they wouldn't be open still, where else do you think they get there money for lab research and marketing, i guess most likely it comes from selling seeds to both new and repeat customers. Dont forget everyone we are dealing with SEEDS from plants if you've ever done biology or even basic science you will understand like any living thing there are variations, and not all seeds are equal. The mother doesnt always produce 100% perfect seeds, and yes I know GHS claims that you will get 100% germination, but maybe in their LABS they do. Peace.
WHAT Any used picture in the MARKETING must have authorised rights for that, other ways its crime ...same with description on the product, commercials on TV , product name etc etc etc Marketing is legal game, Lie is criminal and amoral game. Saying BMW serie 3 have 500 horse powers is a LIE, lying customers about canna genetics and real sources ,description also, is a LIE not marketing, not taking responsibility for BAD product is another story. Marketing & LIE .... Thats two different worlds ! WHAT Read what ppl write here ... most of them are experienced growers. NONE have good word for GHS, except you who have 1 post and "only god knows" (Franco.gh) who send you here. Small self promoter ..... Purpose of threads like this is to open eyes to possible customer and to not let GHS to maximize profit with members from GC. No it doesnt works like before couple years .... and will be worst and worst for GHS cause ppl start figuring out how bad GHS is. Your mention and defending something about what is no words it in the thread, its a evidence how much down goes GHS nowdays. Whats the point of your defending GHS, if you want grow them ?Grow them man, who do not allows you that ? About growing GHS seeds, better ask your self why my signature is like this. If you want more credits next time take real name ! P.S. I can ask Scott to give you couple cutting
From Arjan's line of hotels in A-dam, from the coffee shops Arjan had in A-dam before the top breeders Shantibaba and Neville sold their share and split to Switzerland. Arjan is a "Jack of all trades" when it comes to scamming people out of their hard earned cash. There are just as many unhappy customers as there are happy. And no, they think they got what they wanted because Greenhouse has an A+ marketing team and a lot of their customer know nothing more than what's written in High Times every month.
Seeds and marijuana definitely make more profit then hotels. So your basically saying that people are happy because their marketing is so good, even though these people are growing and smoking the marijuana that started as a seed from GHS?? Im not sure how that works. There may be better strains out there but if someone is happy then someone is happy I dont think you can say there just happy from marketing. I dont know but I loved the smoke and so did my friends, and the plants looked wonderful, and the yield was good. I'm a HAPPY customer as I've smoked plenty of strains to understand the difference in quality. Peace
The hotels and coffee shops were open long before the seedbank, he's made more profit from them That's not what I said now is it? People order Super Silver Haze from Greenhouse but that is not what they're getting...therefore they only think they got what they wanted.
Just wondering have you seen there books? How else would you know that the hotels made more money, and no doubt the coffee shops made them money, but i did say weed and seeds. No its not what you said, but you basically said people believe that its what they wanted because marketing told them so, in turn making them happy because they got what they wanted. And what im saying is if they say its good and you thinks it is then in your opinion its good. Thats all. It is SSH just because it might not be the champion one does not mean it isnt SSH. So all the strains sold by other companies arent exactly the same as the mothers does that make the strains not real? But honestly this is going nowhere, basically if you dont like them dont buy them thats all im saying, and always remember your growing plants not something made by machines thats perfect everytime! cheers thanks for the conversation.
the way i see it a seed company is alowed to name their seeds what ever they want, for what ever reason, i agree that SSH from GHS is not the same genetic make-up as mr nice, but none the less they call it SSH anyway, so the way i see it if you get some SSH from mr nice, ya call it mr nice SSH, if ya get it from GH then ya call it GH SSH, there are a few companies out there with SSH, and IMO you will never see the same plant if compared between any 2 companies because each has diff parent plants or a whole diff genetic make-up with just the same name. i dont really care what the name is, i just look at how the plant grows and the traits i like