Got Mold? YUCK!

Discussion in 'Harvesting and Processing Marijuana' started by justmeagain, Sep 30, 2010.

  1. How does mold develop?

    Mold requires nutrients, water, oxygen and favorable temperatures to grow. Nutrients for mold are present in dead organic material such as wood, paper or fabrics; from wet construction materials including wood, concrete, drywall, carpet or wallpaper; and from some synthetic products such as paints and adhesives.

    How does mold get into a building?

    Mold typically enters a building one of two ways;

    Most often mold develops as the result of water intrusion from a flood, leaky pipe, or condensation. Unless water intrusions are effectively dealt with within 48 hours of occurrence
    , ensuing mold issues are almost certain. The problem is, most small plumbing leaks and condensation issues go undetected until mold becomes a problem. Even so, most mold problems are easily and inexpensively resolve in early stages.

    The second most common way mold enters buildings is through the air or on people, animals and objects that are brought into the building.

    How does mold spread?

    Surface molds spread by eating everything they come in contact with. When surface molds are disturbed they produce mold spores, which become airborne. Airborne mold spores are (similar to seeds), they reproduce more spores. Another requirement for mold to grow is moisture, although some mold species can obtain that moisture from moist air when the relative humidity is above 70 per cent.

    Can you see airborne mold spores?

    Only under a microscope. 250,000 spores can fit on the head of a pin. They are so light they will stay airborne as long as 8 hours in a room with zero air movement.

    Can you smell airborne mold spores?
    Mold spores are known to produce the same musty odors as surface molds.

    Are there harmful and non-harmful molds?

    There are more than 100,000 types of mold. Only a few of them can cause infection in healthy humans (emphasis on “healthy”), while other molds cause infections only in people with compromised immune systems. Most people tolerate exposure to moderate levels of many different molds without any apparent adverse health effects, while others may have severe allergic reactions to the slightest amounts.

    Some molds produce powerful chemicals called "mycotoxins" that can cause illness in animals and people. Scientific knowledge about the health effects of these toxins on humans is quite limited.

    Does mold affect everyone the same way?

    No. Some individuals have a genetic makeup that puts them at risk for developing allergies to mold. People who have an allergy to mold, especially if they also have asthma, can become ill from exposure to a small amount of mold. Those most susceptible mold-borne illness are infants with under developed immune systems, elderly with weakened immune systems, AIDS and cancer patients, anyone whose immune system has been compromised by respiratory infections such as pneumonia, bronchitis, etc., and people who undergo harsh medical treatments such as chemotherapy.

    How much mold exposure is harmful?

    No one knows the answer to this question for several reasons. Individuals are very different with respect to the amount of mold exposure they can tolerate. Measuring or estimating "exposure" levels is very difficult. "Exposure" means the amount of mold (microscopic spores and mold fragments) that gets into a person usually by breathing, but also by eating or absorption through the skin. For example, a building may have a lot of mold in the walls but very little of that mold is getting into the air stream. In that case the people working or living in that building would have little mold exposure, even though the building itself is deteriorating.

    Can mold exposure cause brain damage or death?

    Although some "experts" claim that individuals have brain damage or have died because of exposure to mold and especially mold toxins, there is no verifiable scientific or medical proof at this time to support these claims. Consequently it is prudent to minimize one's exposure to really moldy environments. By "really moldy" we mean where there are large visible areas of mold (more than a few square feet) or the building has a "musty" odor because of hidden mold growth. There are many epidemiological studies showing that people who live in houses with dampness have many more health problems, especially respiratory, than do people who live in dry houses. This association does not "prove" that it is the mold that is responsible for the increase in illness. However, it does support the assertion that it is not wise to live in damp, moldy buildings.

    Does tighter building construction promote mold development?

    Tighter building construction does not by itself promote mold growth, but tight construction combined with some poor choices in design, building materials or operations can increase the probability of mold growth. What do we mean? The tighter the building construction the less air exchange there is between the inside air and the outside air. Whatever gets into the inside air stays there longer than it would in a house with loose construction. Moisture that gets into the air from activities such as cooking, bathing and even breathing will remain in a tight house longer than it would in a loose house. That's why exhaust fans should be installed in bathrooms and kitchens and vented to the outside. Clothes dryers should also be vented to the outside.

    Tight construction permits control of the air exchange between the inside and the outside and can prevent the deposition of moisture in walls and roofs. Controlling moisture, including indoor relative humidity is the key to preventing mold growth. Tight building construction when combined with source control of moisture (exhaust fans) and controlled ventilation (intentional introduction of outside air) reduces the probability of mold growth in a building. Controlled ventilation can be provided by a duct that brings outside air to the return side of the air handler of a forced air system. A timing device or fan cycler can be programmed to have the air handler turn on for a specified number of minutes each hour even when there is no call for heating or cooling. In cold climates controlled ventilation is frequently provided by a heat recovery ventilator (HRV).

    Do new building materials (e.g. drywall or paper faced gypsum board) promote mold growth?

    Mold needs water, a nutrient source, oxygen and favorable temperature to grow. Many species of mold love paper faced gypsum board. Why? Making paper involves the mechanical and chemical processing of wood. Paper is largely pre-digested so it is easy for mold to get nutrients from the paper. But unless there is enough moisture present mold can't grow on the paper. If paper faced gypsum board is kept dry, it can be used and still not have mold. This material is kept dry by controlling the interior relative humidity, keeping rain from entering roofs and walls, and NOT using paper faced gypsum in areas that are likely to get wet. This means no paper faced gypsum board in shower and tub areas. Cement board, mortar or non-paper faced gypsum can safely be used in these damp areas because these products do not contain nutrients to support mold growth.

    Are there reliable tests to indicate the presence of mold?

    Almost all of us already have two effective mold detectors: our eyes and our noses. If black or green discoloration is noticed and is in a location that is damp or had been damp, it is almost certainly mold. If a building smells musty, there probably is mold somewhere.

    Typically, mold testing is done either by extracting a sample from a suspect surface, or by extracting samples of the air. Both methods are accurate when analysis is preformed properly by a qualified lab.

    Is it necessary to perform sample testing with every inspection?

    It depends what the objective is. If the objective is simply to locate mold and identify its source, the answer is no. Once the source of mold is identified, air sampling does not provide additional meaningful information. Conversely, if the objective is to determine the types and/or amounts of mold present, the answer is yes. Air sampling provides a wealth of information and is the only reliable way to get a “snapshot” of the indoor air quality at the time the testing occurred.

    If mold is present, what's the best way to get rid of it?

    The answer depends on how much mold is present and where it is located. If the mold is on furnishings or boxes simply discard the materials. Moldy materials are not considered hazardous waste; they can be sent to a regular landfill. However, it is smart to seal the mold material in heavy plastic to protect the people who handle it in transit and prevent spreading large amounts of the mold into the building as you carry the material out of it.

    If the mold is on a hard surface but occupies less than 10 square feet, wash the area with and anti-fungal mildewcide (scrubbing with a brush may be necessary), then dry the area with commercial grade dehumidifiers before repainting. If you have asthma, severe allergies and a weaken immune system get someone else to do the clean up. In all situations, wear protective gear including rubber gloves, a respirator and face shield.

    Larger areas (greater than 10 square feet in area) should be cleaned by someone with experience in doing this type of work. Remember, determine what caused the moisture problem and correct that problem. Otherwise, mold is likely to recur.

    Is it possible to completely eliminate mold from the inside of a home or office building?

    The answer depends upon what is meant by "completely eliminate mold." To keep a building completely free of mold spores requires very efficient air filtration and is only accomplished in special situations such as hospital operating rooms and manufacturing "clean rooms." Remember, mold spores are in the outside air virtually all the time and some of them will get inside buildings. However, it is possible to keep mold from growing inside a building. Moisture control is the key to controlling mold in interior spaces. Air filtration can contribute to lowering mold spores in the air but is secondary to moisture control.

    Should I use bleach to get rid of mold?

    No. Although bleach will kill and decolorize mold, it does not remove mold. Dead mold can still cause allergic reactions and can resurrect itself under the right conditions. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the Center for Disease Control (CDC) agree that bleach or other biocides should not routinely be used to clean up mold. Only anti-microbial, anti-fungal, mildewcide cleaners should be used.

    How do I know when the mold clean up is finished?

    The mold cleanup is finished when there is no visible mold remaining and there is no dust or dirt remaining that could contain large amounts of mold and mold spores. Routine clearance testing for mold is not always necessary but may be required in some instances. Leaving a few mold spores behind is not a problem if the underlying moisture problem has been corrected. Remember that mold spores are virtually everywhere. Even if all mold and mold spores are removed as part of the cleanup, spores from outside will re-enter that space. The spores won't be able to grow unless water is also present.
  2. Sweet thread, but shouldn't this go in the grow section since mold occurs before harvest almost all the time.
  3. #3 justmeagain, Sep 30, 2010
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    Mold can happen anytime, even before you start to germinate seeds and after a harvest when your in the curing stage :(
  4. Yes, this is sticky worthy, mold ruins alot of hard work for alot of growers.
  5. #5 justmeagain, Sep 30, 2010
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 30, 2010
    Once you got Mold its not hard to get rid of if its discovered in the early stages of growth in the grow area.

    In the later stages of growth and has spread out it can be quite expensive and labor involved to get rid of or brought under control
  6. Keeping the grow area clean before, during and after a grow will prevent a lot of problems. :D
  7. Great writeup! Probably should be in a different section however.
  8. I was hopeing a Mod would move it :smoke:
  9. Damn, I cleaned my op that had mold with bleach thinking it would work great!. I also installed a new inline fan and have been keeping humidity around 30% this time around. Hopefully the combination of bleaching and better ventilation means I'm not at risk to mold but boy, if my leaves are dying on the honey b because of mold, I won't be happy.

    I'm still mourning the 30 grams of red diesel I had to toss due to mold. Fuck mold
  10. Hopefully you got it in time :)

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