Going to Start on COCO, Nute Recommendations?

House and garden ftw. The whole line. Check them out on the interweb. I've used a few different brands still I'm no expert, but that stuff is amazing. Coco line obviously. Good luck your about to feel the power of coco. Lol

 

Good morning back to you SC..Lots of good info around here for you..Just check Ask Eds thread or the others..Soon enough you'll be glad you tried coco...
FWIW, I use the CNS17 line..Works for me buddy..
Good luck!..

 

House and garden is made in Amsterdam. If anyone knows they would. Also I read in maximum yield that there product is so good that flushing is not needed. Even though I still do I think that's pretty amazing...

 

I used botanicare for 2 or so years. It's a great product but I realized it didn't seem as pure or clean as house and garden. I had more trouble with dialing in with botanicare. Now, house and garden is going to cost much more. There roots excellerator was around 130$. They have a really simple feeding chart on there website that a monkey could figure out. I also use great white, silica blast, and bat guano high nitrogen and high phosphorus with there line. I've notice super thick clean hollow stalks since I've used there product. There drip clean is amazing as well.

 

Here's what you should know about H&G:http://www.cannagardening.com/sites/default/files/newsletter/html/en/newsletter-11-07-13.html

They have shadier business practices than Advanced Nutrients. Drip clean is designed to let you use more food than you need because it actually blocks the uptake of nutrients. So they sell you two bottles of stuff at a high price, tell you to use too much of them, and then sell you another bottle of their drip clean so you don't see the results of the over use of the fertilizers.

I support Botanicare CNS17 Coco/Soil Grow, Bloom, and Ripe as the easiest and most effective one part system.

Canna Coco A+B is also a good system but you may find the need to supplement it for cannabis with more potassium and magnesium during flowering. This depends on a variety of factors.

But... A salt is a salt. They are all pretty similar when you strip away the price tags and labels.

 

What exactly does shady business practice have to do with growing quality product? Just curious not being a dick. I can honestly say I have never used canna. Have you used H&G?

 

[quote name='"tsunamichamp"']What exactly does shady business practice have to do with growing quality product? Just curious not being a dick. I can honestly say I have never used canna. Have you used H&G?[/quote]

When I can get higher quality from a less shady company then that is who I will support. We all get to spend our money where we like to and it seems to me that H&G had to lie about their origins in order to get a following.

I tried their shooting powder with no effect. The Coco A&B doesn't look like bad stuff, but like I said before, when you pull off the labels they are just salts in water. I don't mean to tell someone not to use H&G.

 

I've used h&g right up to 2.8EC and the only time i ever saw burn was at 1.5EC with fulvic acid. Any idea why this would be?

 

So what were you using as your grow medium before now smokers cough?

 

My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the chelating action of the Fulvic Acid made the lower concentration of elements more available to the plant.

H&G is the only line I have seen used successfully in coco over a 2.5ec, and I have to assume that this is due to how available the elements are for uptake. The benefit I see here with the Fulvic Acid is that you could use much less nutrient, and spend much less money, when the elements are made more available. Drip Clean is like anti-fulvic, making the over abundance of elements unavailable to the plant anyway, and requiring you to feed higher volumes to get what the plant needs.

I hope you find an answer that can suffice to explain your findings.

 

Let me get this straight. Your saying that drip clean should be called drip clog? I believe it cleans the shoots in you hydroponic plants. Along with the build up in you medium. If you use tap water your suppose to use a product like drip clean.
I personally do not pick apart different kinds of nutrient companies products. As in cyco for veg and then botanicare for bloom. You cannot get the full effect of a companies product if you do that. I understand teas are different in that perspective.

 

Drip Clean was designed specifically to help keep drip lines clean..That's why the name 'Drip Clean' I suppose..
When I first started in coco I used it specifically for that purpose, and not b/c I personally believed it would help eliminate the accumulation/build up of salts in my medium..
I now have omitted yet another bottle, and instead feed-lightly and make sure I get runoff 10-20% most of the time..
That's what works in my garden, and I didn't even dis/pick apart any particular COs products..
Use it , if it works for you, yeah!..Me I'll use the extra cash I'm now saving for other more essential stuff..

 

Thats kind of what i was hoping you would say Means its not a complete waste of time. The only other thing i thought it could be was feeding koolbloom at 0.3EC, so the burn could have possibly come from that?

 

2.8 EC is high IMO..Some strains may take it but not all...The burn could've been caused by salt build up in the medium..And when you dropped to 1.5EC and added KB, and not having enough runoff when feeding, chances are you caused the burning by over-feeding/salt built up and not flushing, IMO..
Drip Clean is NOT a substitute for flushing..

 

Two different grows man, and i ALWAYS get a lot of run off. Same strains both at 2.8 and 1.5EC..

And i actually dropped to 1.2EC ab, 0.3KB