God Exists; The Cynic Does Not

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by maxrule, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. The cynical are often certain that the God of Creation can not exist. They will reason that they themselves can exist and yet God can not.

    Even though they have likely only existed themselves less than half a century, isolated upon this lonely little planet, shipwrecked in the middle of a dark and vast cosmos dwelling in a single point of time and space. Yet many insist with absolute certainty that the God of Creation can dwell nowhere but in the minds of men.

    I find it ironic that they themselves will soon dry up and blow away with the wind and even the memory of them forgotten but the creation lives on; God's word lives on and nobody has forgotten about God in thousands of years.

    Somehow I think you could make a strong philosophical case that the God of Creation does exist and the cynic does not.

    What say you?

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  2. #2 DBV, Aug 30, 2011
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    I say reality is existence, so is long as you see existence as god/reality, there isn't much to argue. The problem is pessimists find certain things they disagree with (and that's all they care about), so they throw the whole thing out.
     
  3. Hmm, I don't believe in God and I've been called a cynic. I love the pillars of creation photo though. Good thing I exist to experience their majesty.
     
  4. #4 grandmastersmit, Aug 30, 2011
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    I think just the thought of imagining something beyond space and time existing for eternity boggles the minds of too many.

    The minds automatic reaction to the unknown is fear and instant rejection.

    Honestly I feel too many have been somewhat brainwashed by the way popular tv shows portray the idea of god, such as Family Guy showing some old man in a white robe sitting up in the clouds..

    I definitely feel that a logical explanation as to the cause of the universe and life can be an intelligent entity, I don't try to label it such as the Christian god or Muslim god, but I definitely acknowledge it and appreciate the ingenious engineering of life and architecture of the universe and it's laws.

    When I look at nature I am just in awe at everything. Each creature as being an individual biological machine capable of so much. I get chills just watching a cheetah sprint at full speed and imagine what it would take for man to come even close to such advanced technology.


    What I'm curious about is why do seemingly all tribes throughout history separated by the massive seas seem to "make up" relatively the same stories of a creation and creator? Why would this idea seep into the minds of all these separate people? Why does all mankind have such a great need for some form of spirituality?
     
  5. you argue that the god of creation lives on through the history and passing of men.

    i argue that men of creation's creation lives on through the history and passing of men.
     
  6. One young god among dozens, all remembered. You would have us believe that the one you prefer is somehow more than ink on paper but all the others are not? It seems by your reasoning, we should also worship hundreds or thousands of ancient men whose words and deeds are also recorded. Many of them are documented from more independent sources than this specific idea of this specific god.

    Is it really ironic that a man dies, but a cult-supported idea will not? That is exactly what one should expect, so I fail to see the irony. Let the support and promotion of the idea stop, and in another thousand years if the idea continues to hold the same sway, then you will witness an irony.

    An idea need never be any more than an abstract. Was this idea ever anything tangible? No one alive really knows with a sober and responsible certainty.
     

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