Gay Marriages?

Discussion in 'General' started by AmsterdamdreamN, Jan 22, 2004.

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Should homosexuals be able to marry w/benefits?

  1. YES- Love is love

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  2. NO- It just doesn't seem right

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  1. OK, I'm sitting here, watching the news, and they're talking about Bush's views on Gay and Lesbian marriage. Now, I seen them flash up the numbers from a Gallup poll, and it said something like 60% of those polled were AGAINST it. Now I know this site will be a little more liberal towards it, but I'm just curious. Do you think gays & lesbians should be allowed to get married and have the same benefits of 'normal' couples?

    In my opinion, sure, why not? If 2 people really love one another, they should be able to unify their love. I have a feeling that most 'homosexual marriages' last as long or longer than 'hetero' ones. I don't have any children. But if I did, I don't think it would bother me, for my child to see to people of the same sex walking down the street holding hands. I don't really think any couple ( gay or straight)should be tounge-kissing or anything like that where kids could see it.

    I for one don't think a person can be 'persuaded' or 'turned' to be homosexual. But if my kid was gay, I don't think it would bother me, as long as he or she found someone to love, who loved them back. What would bother me is, the view a lot of other people supposedly take on it.

    Why does Bush and so many other people find it necessary to tell people what they can and can't do in the privacy of their own homes? Especially when it has NOTHING to do with them?
     
  2. yeah i say whats the difference? i think people should be able to do what they want and lovw who they want
     
  3. i'm cool with a dude lovin another dude or the other way as long as the shit aint all passionate. that wouldnt really be gay but ya know like, dad loves son, brother loves brother, sister lover sister, that kinda shit, but i aint all for the whole gay thing so i dunno that'd be a lil odd i think.

    yea i jus talked complete nonsense that had nothing to do with gay marriage, but oh well
     
  4. I say do what you wanna do. If two dudes or dudettes wanna get married, who the fuck is Bush (or anybody else, for that matter) to tell them otherwise? I thought this was America, home of the free.....

    I have no problem seeing two guys together. If thats what they want, and they're happy, good for them. Doesn't bother me. I don't see why everyone makes a big stink over same-sex marriages. It's not like they're forcing people to marry people of the same sex.....
     
  5. What happens in a nonviolent, healthy relationship between two consenting adults is NONE OF THE GOVERNMENT'S GODDAMNED BUSINESS. PERIOD.

    You can not like it, or think it's gross, but too fucking bad. To say otherwise is like saying the government should be able to outlaw masturbating with your left hand.

    Bush, like the Catholic Church, has absolutely no authority to fuck with the private lives of everyday people. Especially Bush -- remember that whole separation of church and state thing? Yeah, apparently he doesn't.

    What a fucktard.
     
  6. Bush has made his thoughts on this clear but he's not the one that kept it illegal or taboo, whatever you want to call it, for all of these years. Apparently, those in office before him didn't dig it either or it wouldn't be an issue now.


    I think that all people should have the choice to get married, straight or gay. All that matters is that they love each other. If they are married then they should receive benefits as other married couples do.

    My problem is that there are many companies now that offer benefits to the live-in partners of those who are gay. I don't think that's fair. If I want to live with my boyfriend, then the companies that we both work for should allow benefits to be offered to both of us as a couple since they offer it to gay couples who just live together. They don't do it, though. Of course, gay couples don't so much have the right to get married everywhere yet but I shouldn't have to get married to receive benefits when others aren't married. I think it's a form of discrimination...just not sure what kind. That's hard to explain when I'm high. I think I understand myself though.
     
  7. i agree with mr. panda...and regardless of weather or not bush activley denied marrage rights is not the point... he is our (mis)leader and he is who the congress and the rest of the government look up to...and you know that if a bill allowing gay marrage were to pass in both the house and the senate, bush would veto it
     
  8. Let gay people get married, who does it harm? Why stop them from doing what they want. They aren't hurting us any. I mean, I don't mean that in a bad way....I should stop now.


    Pro-gay marriage!
     
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  10. I don't really have a rock-solid stance on this subject, but I am weirded out by gay people. I'm not homophobic, but I seriously think something is wrong with being gay(not wrong in a bad way, but more in a medical way???). Many people say gay people don't choose to be gay, but for some reason I never could make up my mind about that. I'm no scientist or law-maker, so I don't think I am qualified to answer your question, sorry.
     
  11. let people marry their cats if they want.

    keep the government out of it.
     
  12. Married couples do get extra benefits (in most parts of the world) like tax reduction and so on. If gay people can't marry, they won't be able to get those benefits and thus are being discriminated against by the state (for loving a different person than tha state wants you to). Now how could this be right?
     
  13. I look at it this way. If the government were to recognize gay marriages, then they would be promoting homosexuality. And that is something they can not do. Homosexuality has been considered immoral for thousands of years. Only over the last decade or two, has it become a part of our society that is "tolerated."

    Bush is not to blame. Neither is the rest of our government. Its the citizens of the US that do not want gay marriages. The majority of us are against it. It may seem like there is a lot of support out there for gay marriages, but in fact there is not. The people against it usually keep quiet because of "political correctness."

    Take the Iraq war for example. How many rallies did you see supporting the war as opposed to protests denouncing it? There were anti-war protests almost every week all over the world. It seemed as though EVERYONE was against it. But obviously that wasn't so. The vast majority in fact supported the war. We just didn't show it.

    Same goes for gay marriages. The people against it are keeping their mouths shut, for now. IF the time comes that a President WILL sign a bill allowing gay marriage, there will be quite an uproar from the silent majority. But most people know that any President that signs the bill into law will be committing political suicide. Pretty much ending any chance for reelection.
     
  14. blazin420

    "I look at it this way. If the government were to recognize gay marriages, then they would be promoting homosexuality. And that is something they can not do."

    First thing it is not promoting it, it is allowing it.
    Second of all why not promote it ??? Make unsure people feel comfortable being gay instead of suppressing it, leaving them scared of commitment to the opposite sex and afraid of 'coming out'.
     

  15. Why not promote it??? Because homosexuality is considered immoral by the great majority of our society. Like I said in my other post, it has been considered immoral for thousands of years and a couple of decades of tolerance is not going to change that.
     
  16. (Please read this entire post, or none of it, as half-reading it simply won't do and may lead you to misconceptions about the kind of person that I am)

    As a Christian, and especilly as a Roman Catholic, I have to say no. Homosexuality is wrong. (So is porn, but that doesn't keep me from using it.) But, far be it from me to judge anyone on their own personal choices, and I'd hate to come off as doing so. I don't point to a single group and claim "sinner!" as many Christians seem to do, and I ask in return that you not automatically label me as a closed-minded Catholic.

    But... I am also an American, and I believe in the founding principles of this country, the foremost of which is freedom. Freedom of choice, freedom to choose what we want to do, as long as that doesn't infringe on the rights of others. In that sense, I say, yes. I believe that gays should be allowed to wed just like the rest of us. My personal moral/ethical issues don't factor into it, nor should anyone elses. This is a choice, and a freedom, and as a country founded on freedom and choice, I'd think it hypocritical to make a law that says that they can't do as they please.

    God himself gave us free will so we could do as we please. How dare a government founded on freedom and personal choice attempt to restrict that!
     

  17. society also thought that blacks and women were inferior, society knows fuck all
     


  18. ***in Kyle's mom's voice(duh!)*** What, what, what??

    You gotta go with what you believe, goes for almost anything.
     
  19. Well I dont agree with it. But then I dont really care about it.
    If I was a foster child or artificial and I lived with two dads I could never have a normal life. The child would turn out to be suicidal for sure or start taking drugs and be all fucked up like. I think homosexuals having kids is so fucking wrong they should be brainwashed for even thinking it.

    Homosexual marriage is fine until they start thinking that its a normal thing and they can go and have a kid and shit.
     

  20. But it's not right to impose the rules of my own belief system on someone else. A law that says that gays can't marry imposes moral rules and personal beliefs on others that may not carry the same set of rules or beliefs. It is not the job of government to watch over the morality of it's citizenery. Basic ideas of good and evil are universal (i.e. killing is wrong), and those laws are the job of government, but personal choices (weather it's a guy marrying another guy, a girl marrying another girl, or sparking up a joint) should be left to the individual to choose as they please. This is called freedom.
     

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