FLUORIDE: The Bizarre History

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  1. #1 Hank Scorpio, Feb 11, 2011
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    Playlist http://www.youtube.com/user/DianeDi?feature=mhum#g/c/CFF1A76E62D73B45

    FLUORIDE : The Bizarre History 1/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYR57ZYvRuU]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Bizarre History 1 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Cosmetic Effects 2/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgFcnN3ArOo]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Cosmetic Effects 2 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Air We Breathe 3/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpUq4-F4Y74]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Air We Breathe 3 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Great Fluoride Scam 4/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi-7ds-ErH8]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Great Fluoride Scam 4 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Experts at NAS/NRC 5/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs5_deDuu2Y]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Experts at NAS/NRC 5 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Legal Issues 6/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BODrm_V98iY]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Legal Issues 6 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Funky Teeth 7/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AULGk6V2-9A]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Funky Teeth 7 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Thyroid Hormones 8/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XWREK-X-aY]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Thyroid Hormones 8 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Intelligence 9/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U9l4YolGJA]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Intelligence 9 / 20[/ame]

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8AhMQ4rrr4]YouTube - FLUORIDE : UNICEF 10 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : How Fluoridation Got Started\t11/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEhQUeBQhfA]YouTube - FLUORIDE : How Fluoridation Got Started 11 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : ISFR Fluoride Journal 12/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBRzUfBSkqg]YouTube - FLUORIDE : ISFR Fluoride Journal 12 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Brain Development 13/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5iobtWOjyI]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Brain Development 13 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The United States Economy 14/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr6DbDSMVUk]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The United States Economy 14 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : C&EN Special Report 15/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slX2JdCXqIs]YouTube - FLUORIDE : C&EN Special Report 15 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Natural Resources Defense Council 16/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoTR6GCBvP8]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Natural Resources Defense Council 16 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Phosphate Connection 17/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwzWr7c_zEQ]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Phosphate Connection 17 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : EPA Regulations 18/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejc_mS0aTSI]YouTube - FLUORIDE : EPA Regulations 18 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : The Aging Factor 19/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XzeYupNS-k]YouTube - FLUORIDE : The Aging Factor 19 / 20[/ame]

    FLUORIDE : Conclusion 20/20
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK4WiFZSvCE]YouTube - FLUORIDE : Conclusion 20 / 20[/ame]

    Because of politics, fluoride poisons everything on this planet dwarfing other damage.

    ** Information Links **

    Fluoride Action Network
    Fluoride Action Network

    Scientific Facts on the Biological Effects of Fluorides
    Biological Effect of Fluorides

    Why EPA'S Headquarters Union of Scientists Opposes Fluoridation
    EPA Scientists oppose Fluoridation

    FLUORIDE … The Aging Factor
    How to Recognize and Avoid the Devastating Effects of Fluoride
    John A. Yiamouyiannis, Ph.D. (1943-2000)

    The Greatest “Scientific” Fluoride Fraud Yet?
    Nexus Magazune - The Greatest "Scientific " Fluoride Fraud Yet?

    50 Reasons to Avoid Fluoridation

    Governmentally Approved Poison

    Fluoride does not reduce cavities and does causes brittle bones and a soft brain

    Fluoride: A Chronological History

    Oregon Federal Judge Hands Darlene Sherrell a Major Victory Anti-Fluoridation Milestone

    Michigan Mandatory Fluoridation Law Repealed

    Frequently Asked Questions about Fluoride

    Is Fluoride and Fluoridation Causing/Contributing To Cancer & Other Diseases
    Fluoride in Food. Other Water Contaminants. Fluoridation in Other Countries.

    Dare to Think – A Message About Fluoride, written by Darlene Sherrell
    Dare To Think - A Message About Fluoride

    Fluoride Poisoning Symptoms

    Fluoride Health Effects Database
    Research - FluoridePoison.com
    How to Detox Fluorides from Your Body
    How to Detox Fluorides from Your Body
  2. Thank you. Thank you very much. +rep
  3. I don't have the time right now to watch all the videos, my apologies.

    But my dentist always gives me this thing with fluoride in it and I have to bite down on it for a couple of minutes.

    Is it bad for my teeth?
  4. Good for teeth.

    (Arguably) Bad for brain.
  5. Not not unless you have fluorosis, which you probably don't otherwise your dentist wouldn't give you something to make it worse. Don't listen to conspiracy theorists on fluoride. It's based on lies. Although there are few health risks with fluoride, it's rather safe in dosages used. Also, what conspiraciy theories don't want you to know is that this "rat poison" chemical is also found naturally in food (very small amounts) and natural fresh and ocean water (in low concentrations). Some places have naturally high concentrations though. Humans have been drinking fluoridated water since the dawn of time.
  6. I guess I'm fine then. They don't add it to the water in my country.

  7. Then why do they need to add more to our water and food supply? Why do they need to use pesticides that contain fluoride on our crops? Why do they need to enhance everything we consume with fluoride? As you've said, since the dawn of time we have been consuming the amount found naturally in our food and water. Why do we suddenly need to add more? Why does it have to permeate every substance we consume or use on a regular basis? Why is it that our children's teeth are more likely than ever to have big brown spots and deformed teeth and bones? Why does that coincide with the continual raise of the "safe" limit of fluoride? Why didn't they take into account the amount of fluoride people already consume when administering the "safe" limit to our water supplies? Why are the documents that support fluoride over 30 years old? Why is it that the scientists and companies backing the research have a huge interest in seeing fluoride labeled safe? Why is it that the reports of fluoride helping our teeth were based on hearsay and little to no evidence? Why do people suffer from Confirmation bias - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ? Because our parents said fluoride is good for us? Why do they think that? Because some scientists backed by self-interested corporations said so?

    Open your eyes people. Do some research. The government has been proven to tell lies when it suits them. New classified information supports that fluoride is nothing but a toxic chemical. The information is out there, you just need to look a little. Compare dates of research. Do background checks on the people involved. Just give the idea a flicker of a chance. Just because it goes against what you believe, it doesn't mean it's made up hogwash.

    Think logically through it. A chemical substance is being added to our food and water. Sure, it can be found in nature. That doesn't mean it isn't toxic. This chemical substance that is added cannot be avoided. They add more to everything that we eat. We are given very few options to avoid fluoride. They aren't even obligated to tell you how much is in their product unless they artificially add more.

    For example, fluoridated water given to livestock. The fluoride collects in their bones and when a machine grinds up the meat, we get tiny bone fragments in our meat that contain fluoride. They don't need to report how much is there. Tiny fragments are insignificant? No. The amount added to our water is in the order of 2-8 milligrams per liter, which has been proven to be harmful. How much do you think is in our meat? A lot.

    So, this chemical is being artificially added to all of our foods and beverages. For the purpose of keeping our teeth healthy. On top of our fluoride toothpaste and our mouthwash and our floss. I guess brushing twice a day and using fluoridated mouthwash wasn't enough to keep our teeth healthy! Those poor savages before 1960 who didn't get to have the healthy teeth we have today.. but wait. We have an unprecedented number of children with yellow and brown and deformed teeth due to fluorosis?

    What's really going on here? Is it possible that putting fluoride in our water was the cheapest solution to getting rid of the fluoride waste that accumulated during the process of refining uranium in the 1960's when this fluoride movement began on unstable and unfounded claims? What other reasons might there be for using fluoride pesticides and adding an increasing amount to our water? Look it up. I have no reason to lie to you and nothing to gain. Just sort through the horseshit.
  8. This chemical actually plays a big role in the historical fact that the main reason why the revolution took so long to get started, and still is, was because most of everyone was poisoned and would not engage in critical thinking.

    I refuse to drink tap water because of fluoride. I don't drink tap water at all, I patiently wait even half a day just to not drink this poison. I only drink organic apple cider made from organic apples, no water added, when I am broke I buy organic fruit juices in plastic containers (I hate plastic I don't if I have the money) I will be buying a fruit juice maker for myself and make my own juice when I can afford.

    Anyone could invest in a good fluoride filter kit, under sink or above sink. I seen one for $150CAD.

    The government, media, education system, medical system, did a really good job of making a massive global population to believe poison is good for you, when in fact, it is poison that is off the charts in terms of damage caused by industrial pollution. human damage is not the only damage done. This planet needs less toxic chemicals and more organics.

    My fathers/grandfathers generation were sold COAL for an energy source! Imagine how long everyone would live without toxicity.:smoke: The entire time, anyone could have used hemp for an energy source.
  9. #9 maxrule, Feb 12, 2011
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    I refuse to listen to a dentist's reassurance that ingesting toxic chemicals in unknown amounts is somehow good for my teeth. They know this how? Perhaps it is all those countless hours that every dental student spends studying the effects of toxic mineral buildups in all the various glands about the body. :rolleyes:

    The naturally occurring fluoride is not the same as the toxic waste that is put in to the water supply which comes straight phosphorous mining.

  10. #10 UU_ood, Feb 12, 2011
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    Rants are really annoying. Just make a point. Fluoride has been shown to prevent dental caries. Fluoridated water was been proven to lower the amount of cavities. This is a fact based on hard research. Whether you refuse to acknowledge it or not is up to you. Whether you're going to call all dentists quacks for their research is up to you. Fluoride isn't toxic in the dosages used. There hasn't been shown a link between fluoride and other health risks. The consensus is that there is insufficient information. Some studies show a positive correlation, some studies show a negative correlation. Of course, those sites you go to will only show the negative studies and never the positive ones, as if they don't exist.

    Also note: many of the studies showing a negative correlation used higher concentrations than is found in fluoridated water in US (1ppm). For example, the IQ studies in this pdf:

    use concentrations of 3.15-4.2ppm concentrations. More than 3x the recommended.
  11. So the government is adding chemicals to our water supply because they care about our fucking teeth?
  12. Of course not. That sounds ludicrous :eek:
    They're putting it in our water to sterilize, destroy our teeth, depopulate and make us docile :rolleyes:
  13. If you think thats its fine for them to add ANY chemicals to our water supply then you're quite crazy.

    Seriously, the government rob us for our money and lies to us left and right but they care about our teeth? hahah
  14. No man, they just want to sterilize us and depopulate the country so the elites can have a small population of docile citizens in FEMA camps. hahah

  15. Why would they need to ADD MORE? Saying its done to help our teeth is even dumber and naive than any other reason. The fact that you're completely fine with it is unbelievable. And you actually seem serious about it.
  16. Yes saying it's to help our teeth, shown by the fact it deters dental caries, is more dumber and naive than saying our government wants to poison and depopulate us with it. Ignore the studies and dental research done on it. It's all naive and obviously done to kill us. :rolleyes:
    I'm a science guy. I go with the hard evidence, not with the speculation.
  17. Well, I hope you can allow yourself the possibility of being wrong someday, UU_ood. The information is out there if you're willing to look. I hope you really read my post, I believe it explained my position clearly. I still do not know why you believe what you believe.
  18. #18 UU_ood, Feb 12, 2011
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    Being wrong with what? I have admitted being wrong on this very board. Like I said, I go by evidence. I could be wrong that the flying spaghetti monster. Maybe it does exist. But until I see hard evidence it does, I'm not going to take it as a fact. If you don't know why I believe what you believe, do some research. Fluoridated water deters dental caries.

    If I showed you the studies showing a link between marijuana and schizophrenia/depression/whatever mental disorder you'd probably just say, "whatever". Obviously there is no conspiracy of the producers of marijuana using it to make us all crazy right? How do you know the elite isn't just using marijuana to turn the population into a bunch of crazies? Oh, because you like marijuana. But when there are studies on the health risks to fluoride, they are absolutely, positively true, duh. It's the government, that proves they're true without a doubt! Those are called double standards. If you're not willing to objectively research, then don't bother researching. It's not your thing.
  19. The Bad Science Forum • View topic - Tap Water

    This is a really good site. They've got loads of links to ACTUAL research on fluoride in tap water. Rather than a woman going "I had pain, stopped taking fluoride and now I don't have pain, therefore FLUORIDE IS POISON!!!". There is strong empirical evidence proving that fluoride is beneficial in regards to preventing tooth decay. There is no strong empirical evidence proving that fluoride causes diseases or illness in humans. There have been weak studies that show a positive trend in bowel cancer and fluoride rates, but there have also been other studies that show the opposite. It's the same with almost all of these claims made about fluoride causing arthritis and bone cancer etc. The evidence is always weak or actually contradictory to well done research.

    Get over it people. Fluoride in the concentrations in tap water is perfectly safe. There is no conspiracy to control the masses or cause infertility or some other such nonsense. Fluoride helps prevent tooth decay, something that was once a massive public health problem and still is in many areas.
  20. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk"]YouTube - How To Brainwash A Nation[/ame]


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