Weed3 by lrfowler posted Dec 27, 2023 at 4:58 PM Weed5 by lrfowler posted Dec 27, 2023 at 4:57 PM So..I'm having a hard time with my setup..Is it OK to have the water flowing 24/7 to the floraflex pots?.. the pots contain pebbles.........I dont know if its the nutrients (I'm using Jacks - maybe i'm measuring wrong)..... or the water on 24/7...? Here's some pics... I think I might be using Jack's wrong........or maybe too much water...although it's just a dribble of water 24 hours...Jacks is 5 grams of 15-5-20 to one gallon of water.(and 1 gram of epsom salts to 1 gallon water)...I measure 50 grams of 15-5-20 using a scale ...mix it in a quart measuring cup and put it to 10 gallons of water... the plants look crappy ...and the clones were beautiful when I got them - beautiful white roots...
@lrfowler , Welcome back. Dude, those plants don’t look good. I was thinking about you the other day. The Jacks measurement is what the lable says to do. Let’s see if we can figure this out. What is your: ppm Solution temperature Solution pH How often are you changing solution When did you last change solution Air temperature do you add anything else to the solution other than Jacks? How long ago did you plant the clones?
One more thing. Yes 24/7 nutrient flow is ok. I’ve done 24/7 flow in my recirculating system. You’ve seen my system and plants. Are you in veg still?
thanks for replying.....blue..... ppm.......it was like +1200.........its like 1030 now. ph= 6 temperature at night - 64 degrees... change solution .....well the plants been looking crummy ...so i change like every week.....(but I forgot all about checking the PH and PPM!)... air temperature from 78-80 during the day...to 64 at night... i added the stuff you had on your picture ..a small bit of rhizo blast..... pure blend tea.......silica blast........ hydroguard. the clones are two weeks old....i was doing like 20/4 .... now i'm doing 16/8 (not 18/6) thanks!
Something is wrong for sure. When I run the Jacks veg with the same extras my solution is about 500ppm. Yours is way too high. If the pH is way off it’s a mess. Can you get more clones? If you want to save these clones you must ASAP: 1. Dump your solution 2. Flush each plant with 1/2 gal H2O@6.2pH 3. Rinse your reservoir 4. Mix new nutrient 25gm per 10gal H2O 5. Add: 20 ml Rhizo Blast 10 ml Pure Blend Tea 40 ml Slica Blast 20 ml Hydrogaurd 20 gm Epson Salt Maintain a pH 5.8-6.2 24/7 Raise solution temp to 70-75F on the plants. If you can’t replace them immediately then you need to perform some surgery. Pull the few dead ones that I see. On the green ones, carefully cut every dead leaf and stem off and throw in trash. Conserve the green leaves even if they are curling. If we get some new growth we know they want to be saved. It would be better to get new clones, but with time and patience along with following some directions you should be able to make these recover. What do you think?
3 years ago this plant wilted in a couple hours after setting it into its new pot. It got damaged roots cause I didn’t moisten the pellets before setting the plant in. It was a few minutes before the nutrient flow was turned on. it recovered in a few days. yours may recover too.
.....yes I will try this....!!!!..thanks for your help!....getting lazy in my old age...I noticed you have a PH thingy that maintains the PH..........maybe I shud get one of those........of course i have a humidifer....dehumidifier..intake AC infinity fan and exhaust fan,,,,,air conditioner........24/7 table top fan... .......... interesting....how long before the leaves came back?
It took about 10 days for the plant to look good and show new growth at the tips. are you going to try to save these plants or get new ones? pH adjustment system: https://milwaukeeinstruments.com/ph-controller/ Stay in touch, it broke my heart when I saw your plants in such bad shape. Reach out before it gets so bad. You and I have had many conversations trying to improve your grow. Your nutrient manifold could be improved, let’s get the plants healthy and then work on improving your plumbing. you mentioned “old age” I’m 66, how old are you?
shoot ...turning 65 was rough... I realized I was like 65........... 68 now.........nutrient manifold can be improved?.....what ideas do you have?
Post a couple of pics of the plumbing from pump/reservoir to the plants. what are you doing to keep the solution in the reservoir replenished with fresh water. As there is evaporation the ppm of the solution goes up. If water is not replace regularly and the level in the reservoir goes down you may end up with a toxic dose for your plants. I use a float valve plumbed to a separate tank of fresh water. As minute amounts of water is transpired by the plants and surface evaporation the float valve activates allow the correct level to be maintained in the reservoir. I’m in the 6th week of bloom with 2 plants, consuming 4 gallons a day. I have a 10 gallon nutrient reservoir just like you.
so.....lets see........you have a 10 gallon reservoir of nutrient treated water and a separate reservoir of plain H20?..............why not have a separate reservoir of nutrient treated water like I do?...............I have a plumb in the bottom reservoir of nutrient treated water.......when it goes down it refills from the top reservoir of nutrient treated water.
I think that I understand. As the first reservoir lowers the volume is replaced with nutrient from the second reservoir? If that is true then the ppm raises faster than the plant can use the individual elements in the nutrient solution. Ideally you should have the first reservoir with nutrient. The plants use water faster than the individual elements, therefore we should focus on replacing evaporation and transpiration with fresh water. During the week the ppm will slowly go down because the plants are using nutrients and water is replaced, not full strength nutrient solution. At the end of 7 days I recommend replacing the nutrient solution with NEW nutrient solution. If you focus in this method I believe we can prevent the train wreck you are experiencing now.
Think of this: The plants consume the nutrients. The water passes through the plants and gases off via transpiration and there will be surface evaporation too. This happens at different rates. If everything stays the same, unchanged, then all will be in balance. The water portion of the equation changes the most, throwing off the nutrient concentration. Replacing consumed water with water helps keep the balance and maintain a concentration range that will not become toxic.
Try to copy from your photo library then paste into the post. Sometimes works. Might need to change the size of photo, then paste into the post. Sometimes changing the size will allow the upload file button to work.
welll..Blue...I certainly cant give up on them....then I would be admitting defeat .....never! Here's some pics of my setup: