Just thought I'd post some pics of my current setup. It's still partially in the making, but everything is coming into place. Up top I have a veg. chamber thats 28"x12"x24" and the flowering chamber which is 28"x12"x29". Up top I'm just running 4-40watt flouro tubes on an adjustable shelf. I have a fan pointed at the set-up to keep a breeze on my babies. Underneath I am running a 150w hps light and a 160c.f.m exhaust fan. I'll also be running a fan on them when the lights are on and the doors to the cabinet are open. Anyways here a couple pics after about 6 days. This is my first time experimenting with WW and my first time with a digital camera also. So all questions comments and concerns are welcome. Thanks.
I'll be the first to reply to my own post. Any guesses as to why one of the plants is curling a bit downward. I know they pictures aren't good by any means, but anny feedback would be great. Thanks again.....
Not so droopy. It actually curls down on the 2 round leaves on that one plant. I will try to take a better picture after work tonight to give people a better idea.
Curling leaves at this stage mean nothing. Or it might mean your plant is dying, it's hard to tell. What kind of soil you got? Did you feed it anything? How's the temp/ humidity? A few suggestions: 1) Turn your light the other way. Right now it looks like it's oriented to light directly under it, and the back wall and the door. But there might be space issues there. 2) If you haven't, cut intake holes at the bottom of the back wall.I don't know if smell/noise/light is an issue, but a time might come up when you want the doors closed. 3) Without some sort of air cooling, that light will get hot. Dangerously hot. Best case, it fries all the veging plants above. Worst case, it lights the cab on fire. 4) unless they are feminized, you might want to start more than 2 seeds. And if you only do 2 plants, you'll need to SCROG them. Well, that's all I got. Be safe and good luck.
1.) the flouros are all that are on right now and they are directly above the plants. 2.)the top part of the hps light does get some air, even when the doors are closed. I still have time to put an intake fan in the flowering chamber before they get to that stage. The cab is in a closet too, so light isn't really an issue, Noise from the exhaust fan isn't bad at all, since it's mounte in the corner of the box. For odor I have an ozone generator which I'll either run in the closet on a timer or in the adjacent room. 3.) I'm really not too concerned with the light getting too hot. It has pretty good circulation around it, and it's only 150watts. 4.)And yes the seeds are femenized, so we'll see how much luck I have with those. I've messed around with SCROG before, I think I'm going to try out LSTing to fill out the cab without a screen for now. The screen from my previous grow is just barely to big for the cab. Maybe I'll cut it down to size.... Anyways Thanks for the suggestions, keep 'em coming, and I'll post some more pics when there are some more branches, and I get a bit better with my camera. Peace
Just a word of warning- a 150w hps will get REALLY hot. I had a cab set up the same as that one, except the light was air-coold by a 40 CFM fan, and there was a 100cfm exhaust in the cab. Same size as yours, same lay out. I ad to cut 4 3inch holes at the bottom to have good air flow. The thing ran at 10-12 degrees above room temp. Turning your light would give you much better light distribution in flower. But that reflector looks too big. Maybe you could remote the ballast and pull the spectral pebble out?
bluebong thanks for the responses. You have no idea how long it took me to figure out what you meant by turning the light......lol. I definately see what you mean though. I'm posting a couple more picks right now of my babies. A couple more leaves starting to come out to play. I know you're not supposed to give nutes to plants this young, but I planted them in Scotts potting soil for seedlings. I think there's only like .01% P5O5 in there (nothing close to the amount of nutrients as in some other soils.) I do also have a bag of "the dreaded" Miracle Grow soil I was going to use when I repotted the plants when they get larger and there not as sensitive to nutes. Anyways that's it for now......replys/ advice is welcome as always, and I'll keep you all posted with updates!!!
don't please don't use the miracle kill I mean grow. Time release nutes burn mj no matter how old they are. Get some non-fert added soil.
Yeah, I wasn't that clear about it. I would use the seedling mix all the way. It's basicaly a soilless mix of moss/perlite/vermiculite, which is perfect. The pre-ferted soil doesn't give you the control you want, and it's impossible to flush.
What about introducing the plants to some nutes now? If I stick with the seedling soil, can I start giving them 1/4 strength, or should I just keep giving them straight water for a couple more weeks??
I'd say water unitll the little single leaves at the bottom turn yellow. That's a pretty good indicator that they need feeding. Keep updating pics, and we'll help it along.
So I think I'm getting a little bit better with my camera, and I've posted a couple more pictures of the ladies (at least they'd better be ladies.) Now they are 9-10 days old. One's just a little bit further on than the other I believe, but they are both changing fast every day. I think I'm going to leave them under the flouros for another 7-10 days, and then get them under the hps. Here are the pictures I just snapped today. By the way bluebong thanks for the responses, and I'll take your word on it about the nutes. Keep the tips coming......
So here are a couple more shots of the WW. Seem to be coming along really nicely. There is new growth every day. Only problem is that the outside of the leaves are turning a little yellowish, and the two round bottom leaves on one of the plants are yellow as well. I know they say not to add any nutes the first few weeks, but I went ahead and watered them this morning with ferts. for the first time at the young age of 14 days. I dilluted it down to about 1/6 strength, so if I am adding them too early, my babies won't burn to death. If anything bad hapens to them don't hesitate to say "told you so," but I have a feeling they will be fine and I'll be posting pictures of really nice healthy plants in a few days. Anyways don't be shy with any advice for my grow, hopefully I'll hear from some of you soon. Peace
The yellowing on my plants was spreading a bit, so I decided to take action today. The single leaves on the bottom are yellow, and dead I think, but the plants are both beginning to yellow a lot around the outside of their leaves. Here are a few more pictures of them. I think they look worse in person, then they do in the pictures, but here they are anyway. I gave them ferts for the first time a few days ago, but today I just gave them water, with hydrogen peroxide, and a bit of epsom salt, in case the yellowing is from a Mg def. Hopefully this will help cause the ferts didn't seem to have much of an effect on the plants, that I could notice anyways.
You haven't repotted them, right? When you do, keep using the seedling mix. Do not switch to the miracle grow. At this stage, it is very unlikely there are any defficiencies. If the round little leaves on the bottom have yellowed, get them on 1/4 - 1/2 strength nutes. Only water when the soil is nearly all dried up - not just on top. The best way to tell is to weigh the container- it should be very light. Alternate nute water and clean water. The bottom leaves will die. Don't over-react and kill them with love. They look fine to me.
Bluebong welcome back bro. I actually just reppoted them last night, and I kept the seedling soil like reccomended. The yellow leaves on the bottom did yellow so I gave them a light dose of nutes the other day. I thought I've been realy careful about watering them, using the finger down the side of the pot routine, but from now on weighing them is all I'll do. Soil felt really dry last night when I reppotted them, but when I got the soil and roots to come out of the pot. The bottom half of the soil was still very wet and I'd say the roots were bound as well. Anyways thanks for the response as always and I'll post ina few days with some updates.
That bottom wet half is why I always go by weight- if you just stick your finger in the soil, you never feel that part, and keep adding water. And roots don't like to be wet all the time. Pack a container with dry dirt and heft it just to see how light it is for comparison.