got some bagseeds going. using 4 48 inch tubes 40 watts each 3 of the four are 6500k other is 3000k. 5 24 inch tubes one is 75 watt high output two are 20 watt plant type bulbs and the other two im not sure they are a orange color almost kinda like my 3000k bulb. once i start flowering i will change the 2 of the 3 that are 6500k to hopefully the 2700k bulbs. i have been having trouble finding the 2700k bulbs. but i guess the 3000k would work also. i have an old hydrofarm mh set up 400 watts. the reason im not using it is because of heat issues. my small closet gets way too hot with the mh but with the fluorescents it stays right about 80 and that is with a small fan. i will post pics soon as i can. babies just starting so i will give em a while only on like day two being outta the soil. o yeah im just using styrofoam cups with miricle grow potting soil. im looking to get as much out of them as i can. any comments welcome