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first time cooking! pasta and sauce?

Discussion in 'Weed Edibles' started by MikeyMike87, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. #1 MikeyMike87, Mar 14, 2012
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    hey blades, been smoking quite a while now, a good solid two years. Wanna try out on some edibles, i have cooking experience and know around the kitchen, is it possible to mix herb in with a italian sausage and tomato sauce with pasta? the ingedients of the sauce is the folliwing. some olive oil, minced garlic, 1 onion, salt pepper, two 28oz. cans whole tomatos one pound- 1 1/2 LB italian sasuage. good for the weekend, i simmer the sauce a good five-six hours. would mixxing herb in the sauce be a good idea?
     
  2. Hey there.
    Yes.
    When I have mixed herb in with pasta/sauces it's usually been in the form of cannabutter, or post-vaped weed.
    However, If you're using straight weed, I'd suggest looking up how to decarb it first - which is essentially "cooking" it a bit before you add it to anything, but yeah there's specific temperature ranges and timing etc, so if it's fresh bud you're using look that up - trust me, it will make all the difference.

    Also, on the pasta thing...I would say that while I have had it in both, doing this definitely works a little better in a cream based pasta sauce, like a mushroom or carbonara - the extra fat carries it a bit better, and I've always had the theory that the acidity in tomatoes may break it down a little bit.
    Also refrain from adding any alcohol to the sauce too, alcohol has always damaged the effect when I've used it.
     
  3. Most effective way would be to make the olive oil you use into super-potent canna-oil and probably double the amount of it, I think. Rather than just simmering everything together. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  4. Simmering it will not work, there is not enough fat in the sauce to absorb the THC. Like Redeye said, make it into an oil first then mix it into the sauce. It'll be much more potent and you'll be able to taste more flavor from the sauce.

    http://forum.grasscity.com/incredib...-easiest-single-serving-canna-oil-recipe.html

    With this recipe I usually go 335F for 40 min. I don't bringing to 350F for oil since that is the vaporization point of THC and one false step can make you lose a lot of product.
     
  5. THC has a flash point of 300.2 f.

    This is when it begins to turn to a vapor.. the preferred vaping temps begin at 330 - 340 f, because at those temps and higher, well ground material can begin to almost instantly vaporize, but it happens more gradually before that, once the temp exceeds 300.


    If you want a 'gourmedible' where you sacrifice some potency in exchange for using the traditional oil suggested for the recipe, then use olive oil.

    If you want an effective 'medible', then use coconut oil to make canna oil or better, a concentrated edible hash oil, (preferably less than the total amount of oil required for the recipe) and blend it with the required remaining portion of warm olive oil, just before mixing into your sauce.


    Coconut oil contains medium-chain triglycerides which promote portal vein and liver absorption, so your D9THC can be converted to the much more powerful 11-OH-THC.

    Olive oil does not contain medium-chain triglycerides; it is comprised primarily of long-chains which promote lymphatic absorption, and when you bypass your liver, you miss out on the potentiating conversion that occurs there.



    Here are a few good photo tutorials, if you want the 'most bang for your buck'. :)


    BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Cannabis Concentrate (Edible & Smokable recipes included... similar to BHO, but made with food grade/drinking alcohol)


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    BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Hash Oil (starting with dry-sift hash, same as capsule recipe, oil can also be used for cooking)


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    BadKat's Highly Activated & Bioavailable, Med-Grade Canna Oil (starting with flowers/bud/trim etc)


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    Don't worry; making a high grade medical oil is EASY!


    It just requires 10 - 15 minutes of your time, the rest of the process is spent simply waiting while it becomes bioavailable and potent. :)


    If it seems a bit tedious (really, it's not, but if you know you won't get the chance to make more soon), then just try to make as much as you can all at once, and pop it in your freezer for future use and easy medicating any time you like! :smoke:



    Hope this helps! Good luck, and have fun :wave:
     
  6. BadKitty - I've learned so much from your posts and have great success with the edibles.

    The "flash point" is where there is enough concentration of the substance in the air to burn - you NEVER want to get to that point because your oven would either go woooof or boom.

    The "boiling point" is the temperature at which bubbles start to form in the liquid and it escapes the liquid as a vapor. Does this mean that the THC won't volatilize below that temperature? Not necessarily - as the solution warms up, the vapor pressure of the THC may come into play and allow some amount of THC to escape.
     
  7. #7 BadKittySmiles, Mar 14, 2012
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    The flash point is actually below the boiling point, and after vapors begin to occur... if there was to be a 'woosh and boom', you would need to create a certain concentration or a dense enough pocket of contained vapor, and it would require a flame or ignition source! That is a flash point; the temperature at which a vapor is created and produced, which then 'can be ignited'... it is not the same as the autoignition point, which does not require a flame or ignition source but relies on the ambient temperature in which the vapor is contained or exposed!



    Take for instance the boiling point of water, at 212 F depending on your elevation... but vapor or steam is still produced, long before it boils, and it can even evaporate at room temp and lower.


    Then glycerin which has a boiling point of 290 C, which is a much, much higher temperature than what is required to produce vapor, while it has a flash point of only 160 C closed cup, or 176 C open cup. :)


    And olive oil, which depending on its virginity (lol) has a smoke point of 468 F (the point where an oil produces blueish smoke, and breaks down into harmful compounds), while its boiling point is a whopping 570 F.


    (Edit - And the boiling point of THC is considered to be as high as 390.4 - 392 F, while its flash point is only 300.2 F )


    The boiling point of a substance or chemical is generally more damaging to its integrity, and 'more dangerous', than its flash point.



    :wave:
     
  8. once I harvest my master kush ill be sure to save all my trimmings and make some oil for some recipes :D Thanks BadKitty
     
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