So I took some clones from my garden and I plan to reverse one and pollinate the rest. Any advice would be appreciated. My questions are: 1. Which spray is best to reverse a female? 2. When do you start spraying? 3. How big do you let the clones get before flipping? 3 of my plants are yellow because they were in super cheap Costco soil with no drainage. I knocked as much dirt off the roots and repotted them in fox farms happy frog so should I wait another week or 2 for them to start looking healthier? I probably should let them get a little bigger anyway im thinking but im not sure.
they will green up from the top all the yellow will most likely die but they will survive for sure those pots are too small though
I use CS to limit the ethylene production in my pollen donor. I make sure my pollen donor clone is healthy first. Then spray it one week before I flip to flower, spraying daily. I then flip and continue spraying for 2-3 weeks more until I have good pollen sacs showing. I do not flip my female until my pollen donor has been into the 12/12 flowering cycle for 1 week. I find this will give the pollen donor the necessary time to mature and match up with the mature pistils of my female. If we flip them at the same time the pollen may not be dropping when the female is at her prime. HTH. Edit: I use 1/2 and 1 gallon pots for my pollen donor and females respectively.
Ok so I ordered CS spray and started spraying the 2 Picasso clones I want to reverse a couple days before flipping per a YouTube video I saw. This weekend I’m gonna start 12/12 on them and then a week from now I’ll put them back in the tent and flip all of them to 12/12. I do have some questions about pollen from normal males though. I had 3 males and I chose what I think is the best one. I’ve never let a male grow out so this is new territory for me. It started showing pollen sacks probably 3+ weeks ago and up to this point only 2 of my females just barely started showing pre flowers this morning and it looks like the male pollen sacks are already opening up. Will it continue to grow pollen sacks? Or should I take this thing and shake all the pollen out and preserve it until my females are more mature? **note** I’m aware that it’s bad practice to grow a male outdoors, but I’m 100% sure none of my neighbors grow, I live on a mountain in extremely dense woods and wind doesn’t carry very far, and it’s right next to my house surrounded by thick bushes and pine trees so I’m willing to gamble on this a bit.
You should have a pollen drop line up with your outdoor females. It doesn't happen all at once. But, having said that. It never hurts to collect some extra pollen. That male may prove to be a winner and you'd wish you did.
You’ll have to forgive me what do you mean by line up? I have a clone right next to the male that I’m specifically looking to pollinate. But are you saying that it’ll continue to drop pollen? I guess my concern is that it’s gonna drop this pollen before the clone next to it is ready for it.
I'm a bit confused myself. I'll blame weed for that.. The male you have is outdoors and already flowering, correct? Did you force him into flower? I would collect pollen and save it. I see you mentioned your females are just starting to show pre-flower. If that is the case your pollen will likely finish dropping before your females are mature enough to accept the pollen. It seems as though you have two different breeding projects going on. One project to make regular seed. Then one to reverse and make feminized seed. Is that correct?
Haha yeah sorry there’s a lot going on. So long story short I found a bag seed in some really good stuff I found last year so I’m trying to get as much out of it as I can. so I took 4 clones of it as well as some clones from 2 of my outdoor plants which should theoretically mesh well as far as flavor profiles are concerned with intention of reversing 2 and pollinating the rest of the clones. As it turned out all 3 of my grandi Candi seeds were male so I saw the opportunity to pollinate one of the clones with one of those. I brought all the clones inside since they were basically drowning with the stormy weather and developing slower than expected. Now that they’re healthy again, I brought 1 clone outside next to the male and started spraying the 2 indoor clones and putting them under a cardboard box with a sheet over it to trigger flower a week ahead of flipping the rest in the tent. outside, I brought the one clone out about 2 days before I started seeing preflowers on my plants that have been out there all season. The male plant started growing male flowers probably 2-3 weeks ahead of seeing preflowers on the females though in addition to the fact that the clone is even further behind those females. So I suppose at this point if I want to use the male pollen I’m starting to think the only real option will be to collect it and save it for when the other clone starts to flower.
You can punch a hole in a paper plate around the center. Then cut the paper plate from the outside edge toward the center hole. Now, slip it around the stem of your male. You can flick the stem with your finger or tap it with a stick a few times a day to help the pollen drop. Do not let your pollen get wet. Dry it like you would seeds. Some folks dry all purpose flour in the oven on the lowest setting and then mix it 50/50 with their collected pollen. I just toss some rice in the paper envelope I keep my pollen in to help keep it dry.
Ok yeah this is what I’m nervous about. I’ve seen a multitude of videos talking about moisture and dialing in an environment to dry the pollen which is why I was HOPING to let the plant just pollinate a clone naturally. So last night we got a light rain so the ground is wet but the plant is dry. The humidity is absolutely unreal right now. In my room I have the ac turned on and it’s 67 F and 73% humidity according to a decently accurate gauge I have. From what I’ve seen in videos and read I should be around 40% rh to prevent damage.. I don’t see any possible way to come even remotely close to that. I have a huge bag of silica packets that I could use but I feel like I shouldn’t close any container I put the pollen in and I doubt they’d be useful in open air at all. I suppose I could just go for it and hope for the best. It’s just a little side project but I was really looking forward to breeding some reg seeds. One of the clones indoor is the same as the ones im reversing so I will have some selfed seeds for a second attempt in the future, BUT 3/3 of the grandi Candi seeds out of the pack so far were male so im not sure how many males will be left to grow out.
There is a good section here on GC about breeding. You may find some helpful information there. Cannabis Breeding I'm going to follow your progress with your breeding project as I'm always interested in learning from others. The fact your male went to flower before it should have outdoors almost has me thinking it could have been an auto-flower male.
well the thing is all 3 of them started flowering WAY before they should have. And I trust the genetics because they’re directly from a grandiflora distributor unless that’s a common trait with this strain which I’m not sure of. What I don’t like though, is that 3/3 out of a 13 pack we’re male. So either I just popped like all of the males in the pack giving me a lower chance of a second try or most of the pack are going to be males. unfortunately I completely botched the pollen collection on the one male that I kept. So I went out and like half the pollen things were open and I was like ok this would be a good time to collect it.. I put a giant 2.5 gallon ziplock over it and cut it down and shook the living hell out of it to get essentially no pollen whatsoever and a million baby spiders. luckily I gave my friend 2 clones off the plant that I thought was a female originally and he still has them and plans to do an open pollination with all of the other clones I gave him so all is not lost. also I still have the clones going strong inside. I had the 2 that I was reversing in 12/12 since last weekend and i just flipped the rest. So hopefully that goes well. I’m gonna look and see what to look for as far as herm traits are concerned but I can see what appears to be the first couple pistils on one of the 2.