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First organic grow: light green foliage

Discussion in 'Growing Organic Marijuana' started by ToKKin, Aug 15, 2023.

  1. This is my first time growing organic and im just wondering why the foliage is such a light color. last years outdoor and the indoor clones i have off of these same outdoor plants are being fed dyna gro synthetic nutrients and have nice healthy dark green leaves.

    as far as set up i have 15 gallon fabric pots with build a soil take and bake soil in half, and the same recipe but with locally sourced ingredients for the other half. i thought maybe they were getting hungry so about 3-4 weeks ago i top dressed each pot with a cup of gaia green and build a soils build a flower top dress and i didnt notice any change. this weekend i did another top dress of a cup of gaia green bloom and a ton of worm castings and watered it in with compost tea and i still havent noticed anything although im aware it takes a while for these things to break down.

    i have another plant outdoor that is in the same conditions except it is getting synthetic fertilizer and the leaves are nice and dark so i dont think the issue is over/under watering since they are getting the same amount of rain.

    im not like SUPER concerned, but i definitely notice a noticeable difference in the leaf color between the organic and synthetic plants and would like to know what i can do differently.

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    i also have 2 plants with purpling stems. im almost certain the one is just genetics because its been that way since it was a seedling and its alll the stems from top to bottom but the other one is only the top stems and the leaf stems and i dont remember if it was always like that or not.

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    ^^ this one is the platinum jelly and im pretty sure its just the genetics on this one.

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    ^^ this one is my slurricane plant and im not sure about this one. im not even really 100% sure why purpling in the stems is a bad thing, i just remember a while ago seeing or reading somewhere that it could potentially be an indication of a problem.
     
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  2. look close at the fan leaves some have an almost white or creme center vein that suggest Mag .Def
    the all over color tho is confusing suggesting hunger (N) .def
    I'd foliar spray a test plant lower down, with 1/2tsp of nute hi in (N) with warm water to a pint spray
    bottle and spray 2x times a day check again and compare after 2-3 days.

    keep in mind the solstice has long passed and most outdoor plants are falling to flower

    good luck

    Why is my whole plant wilting, curling, with tips turning black and leaves turning yellow? | Grow Weed Easy
     
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  3. Not easy to keep em happy with constant heavy rain as soil gets washed off. Soil temps might worth a check too. As much as I Love Gaia Green Power bloom and EWC, if it does not fix the issue, I'd try synthetic nutes maybe on 1 plant to see how it goes. Better to have an healthy garden than a 100% organic garden.
    I think the purple stem could be genetic related. You'll see it in a couple of weeks if buds grows purple.
     
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  4. Living organic growing medium needs to mature. As your medium gets older your microbial population increases and so will your nutrient cycling. That is a big part of your issue. So would be the heavy or steady rain or watering to run off. When using living organic mediums we do not water to run off as the nutrients available to our plant would be washed away from our rootzone.
     
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  5. What are you doing for nitrogen?
     
  6. If you want to stay 100% organic, make an aerated compost tea with EWC, kelp meal and blood meal. Let it brew 24-30 hrs for optimal bacterial activity. Or get something like Canna Biovega.
     
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  7. so as I’m new to the concept of organic gardening, I was under the impression that for the most part the soil was going to be loaded with nutes and I would just have to top dress for flower and then re-amend the following year. So until now nothing.
     
  8. im not hell bent on staying full organic although it was originally the goal. What I did this morning now that the rain has let up and the pots were able to dry out a little bit was mix up 4 gallons of synthetic nutes that were pretty hot. The dyna gro I have leftover from last year recommends 2 tsp/gal for a biweekly feeding so I did half and half between the veg and bloom nutes and added their magnesium additive too. I didn’t do a full watering for each plant since the soil is still moist so we’ll see how that turns out.
     
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  9. Yeah unfortunately we’ve had very heavy rain this year so they basically were constantly soaked. I gave them some synthetic nutes to hopefully help them spring back to health but I’d really like to limit that as much as possible since I was really looking forward to seeing if organic bud was any different in the end as a lot of people say it’s better. I have never made compost tea before and I’m not really sure how to optimize it to have a heavier percentage of one nutrient or the other but for now I bought a premade worm casting tea concentrate that’s supposedly high in nitrogen that I’ll give them again next watering while I research compost teas and foliar sprays more
     
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  10. We have had heavy rain this year also. I can't remember in my lifetime so much rain in a year. My tomatos have loved it! Real tomatos that is, As far as compost tea, I just made my first small batch and it seems to have made them happy. A good source of organic nitrogen is bloodmeal. Good luck.
     
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  11. Your plants are hungry! The main problem is 15 gallons of soil is not enough for an outdoor grow. It’s going to require some work to get them back in shape. I would pop 4 stakes around each pot and attach burlap creating a larger ‘container’. Slice the fabric pots and roll them down exposing the roots. The mix could be as simple as 50/50 compost/bark mulch. I’d probably want an extra 50 gallons per plant. In the meantime I’d thwack em with fish hydrolysate and kelp teas. The purple stems are from a lack of potassium.
    RD
     
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  12. Yeah I wanted to dig some nice proper 6 foot holes and load them up with living soil but I plan on moving within the year so I thought I’d do pots and then just being the soil wherever I go and make proper beds there because of how much it costed I didn’t want to leave it.. clearly I underestimated how hungry the plants would get. As a bandaid I gave them a massive top dress and water with teas every watering and bi weekly I give them a pretty heavy dose of synthetic nutes which ALLEGEDLY won’t harm the microorganisms
     
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