First Grow: Cozy Closet, Minimal Stealth -- Help Appreciated!

Discussion in 'Indoor Grow Journals' started by Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016.

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  1. #1 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    So my boyfriend and I spend way too much buying weed, so we decided to try and supplement our supply with seeds we picked out of club bud. We've been growing a couple of plants for 2 weeks now, and it's been a lot of fun so we decided to germinate a few more seeds we got from a friend.

    Right now the plants are in our empty closet, with white walls and some mylar coating, sitting directly under 100 watts of cfl ranging from 5000k to 6500k. we have them under 24 hours of light with a little fan blowing on them and the closet cracked periodically with a fan to circulate the air. the temps range between 74 and 80 and the humidity is usually between 40 and 50%.

    They seem to be doing fine so far, but I'd like to post pictures periodically so people can point out if we're obviously doing something terribly wrong, or if the plants develop an issue were too inexperienced to notice

    Here they are the day after putting them in fox farm ocean forest. I've read that it can be hot for seedlings but so far so good it seems. they're a couple weeks old now so I'll play catch up with the updates and pictures in the next day or so. :)
     

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  2. #2 PNWClosetGrower, Apr 25, 2016
    It is hot for seedling but it's not going to kill em. You might see some tips burnt on the first leaves that's usually about it.
     
  3. #3 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    Fast forward to day ten and the two different strains seemed to be doing good. the bigger one was leaning to the right quite a bit, so we made sure to keep him rotated towards the light
     

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  4. #4 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Looking great, but for flowering you will need more than 100w of cfls. You will need around 150w per plant. Also make sure you aren't overwatering. No need to water until the top of the soil is dry so around every 2-3 days.
     
  5. #5 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    Today is day 13, and they both look healthy, I think? It looks like the new fan leaf on the more developed plant is coming in split in two? Or am I just not looking at it right?
     

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  6. #6 PNWClosetGrower, Apr 25, 2016
    It's fine, you get anomalies like that all the time.
     
  7. #7 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Yes looking great. Your 5 finger fan leaves are coming in.
     
  8. #8 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    were planning on adding a couple more plants so we were thinking of getting a 300 watt hydro grow led to keep temps lower than a bunch of cfl. they seem to be a pretty popular light woth good reviews. then wed put some daylight cfls on the edges for side lighting

    Amazon.com : MarsHydro Mars300 Mars600 LED Grow Light(Mars300 with Veg/Bloom Spectrum for Hydroponic Indoor Greenhouse/Garden Plant Growing, 132W True Watt Panel) : Patio, Lawn & Garden
     
  9. #9 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Oh ok! Sorry I thought you were continuing with CFLs the entire time. That should work perfectly. What is your currently light schedule? Do you have a timer yet? There are cheap electrical timers at walmart.
     
  10. #10 Biogreenthumb, Apr 25, 2016
    Your plants are coming along well. Obviously when they get past a foot or so you will need to step up the lighting. You guys should invest in a T5 grow light (you can even mix up the bulbs between 3k and 6500 bulbs so that you get a fuller spectrum). I personally would put them on the 18/6 schedule, it is more natural for the plant and helps develop roots in the dark, they need sleep.
     
  11. #11 Biogreenthumb, Apr 25, 2016
    I think that 300 watt led would be dope to try out! you may have to battle heat for sure but its probably your best option
     
  12. #12 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    we've had them on a 24 hour light schedule because we've read that they grow faster as well as shorter which is important in our small closet.

    we've also been thinking of doing 18/6 because some people say plants do better when they rest. but they seem to be doing okay so far so I figure I won't mess with what's working. and yeah we have a timer, we just haven't used it yet.


    My main concern is heat, it gets up to 80 degrees, and witu summer coming temps outside will reach 100. if we throw a 300 watt led in the mix I'm afraid temps will get too high. I'm not really sure what to do to control heat as a intake outtake grow tent system isn't rely viable for us. we've just had the closet door open and a floor fan blowing in to keep temps down. it works well, but might not be enough eventually
     
  13. #13 Biogreenthumb, Apr 25, 2016
    yea your best bet is to invest in a tent and and get two 4 in inline fans.. one of them could even be smaller if you find it. From my experience, you cannot go too far in closet grows unless you have air circulation. When summer gets here, you will stress your plants in there and the 300 watt will basically be a bad investment. Get yourself a tent and fans and ducting. looking at around 200 dollars for that if you shop around.
     
  14. #14 Biogreenthumb, Apr 25, 2016
    they're doing well now but moving them down to 18 hours will make them do better.. just putting that out there
     
  15. #15 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    The LEDs shouldnt put off too much more heat than the CFLs. I had my plants on 24/0 and they did fine (my grow journal is located below if you wanted to see) When mine were in the closet I also left the door open while the lights were on. I left my closet door and room door open for max air circulation.
     
  16. #16 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Also if you did want a grow tent jet.com has 15% off your first order and they have reasonably priced grow tents. You likely wouldnt need one larger than 3x3. I got a 4x4 and wished I had gotten a 3x3.
     
  17. #17 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    Has anyone tried 21/3 light cycle? That seems like it would give a few hours of dark for root development but not dark long enough for much stretching to occur
     
  18. #18 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Roots still develop without dark periods. You can go with 21/3 if you do want to provide a dark period though.
     
  19. #19 Elsawelsa, Apr 25, 2016
    Is there any actual evidence that plants need/do better with a dark period during veg?
     
  20. #20 whackyac, Apr 25, 2016
    Is pretty controversial. A lot of people agree that 24/0 has more rapid growth and reduces stretching though. Some people just think that the plant needs darkness for veg because thats now it is in nature. But Cannabis doesnt require darkness for veg and will actually grow fine without a dark period. However, to get the plant to induce flowering it must have 12 hours of darkness to produce bud.
     
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