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First Grow: Bagseed so far (Purple No. 1 to come), CFL, LST, cocoponics, Lucas

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  1. #1 Hand_of_Nog, Aug 27, 2008
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    DAY 3

    I soaked two bagseeds on Saturday, the 23rd. One sprouted on the 24th and was put in coco/perlite on the 25th. An order of Purple No. 1 should be coming in the mail soon.

    My grow room is a small dorm closet, which will hold four, four gallon pots for the purple no.1 plants, and two one gallon pots for the bagseed, if I can squeeze it in there (I don't care as much about the bagseed). The lamps (one 105 watt, two 85 watt, all 6500k) are held up by wooden dowels held together by bungee cords (I had to get creative on a budget). The setup allows me to change the height of the lamps as needed. The "walls" and ceiling are pieces of cardboard with a sheet of gift wrap from the dollar store taped onto them.

    I will start feeding the seedling at 1/4 strength pretty soon.

    More to come; any input would be appreciated.

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  2. #2 Hand_of_Nog, Aug 27, 2008
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    DAY 4

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    True leaves just emerged. Just started feeding at 1/2 strength, instead of 1/4 strength as I said I would. My EC meter hasn't come yet so I don't know what the ppm is; I can only hope that whatever I did approximates the estimates given in the Lucas Formula guide.

    pH of the nute solution was 6.4. pH of the runoff that came out of the cup was 5.7. I guess that means I can assume the pH of my medium is 5.7?
     
  3. DAY 9

    So the seeds arrived today in this, heh:
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    I gave up on trying to germinate the second bagseed, but this is how the other one looks so far:

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    I've been feeding it with 0-2-4 (Grow-Micro-Bloom); a little less than half strength. I'll probably up it to full strength soon.
     
  4. Looking healthy but.... DORM ROOM?!?! Bad, bad, bad idea man.
     
  5. props, you have got to have either a lot of balls or not very many brains. I know I wouldn't want to jeopardize my educational future over somethin like you're doin. It; one thing to be in school and get caught with weed oin campus, it's a whole new monster to get caught growing weed in your dorm. you really should look into getting an apartment and living off campus if you're goign to do this. it really is not worth the risk.

    but I'm sure you already knew all this.


    regardless, good lookin plants
     
  6. Ok man I noticed You said DORM, and it brought up some immediate worries to me. Since its a dorm im assuming its on campus and has RA's etc???? You just pay your school fee? Your not actually paying utilities???? Am i right???? If i am right dude, I would be really weary of continuing this grow. Just think about it. Dont you think its gonna look odd whoever runs the dorm notices that your room is putting out like a noticeable amount of extra electricity???? Usually in houses its 1000's of watts before someone has to worry, but in a dorm it would probably be noticable with only a couple hundred watts...just be careful.
     
  7. looking good and be careful growing. you really dont want to get caught doing that
     
  8. That I did.

    I am friends with both of the RA's on my floor, who also know that we routinely play beer pong/smoke in the rooms, and don't care. Far more ridiculous things routinely happened in the hall last year that didn't result in anything serious. It's my second year living in the building as well, so I'm familiar with its rhythms, and what goes and what doesn't go. The only way anyone with authority would find the plants is if something absolutely spectacular happened in the room that warranted a full search, and believe me, that won't happen. I've also kept a tight lid on the operation, so word wouldn't leak out about it.

    The power consumption of the bulbs is 275W combined, which is less than that of a current desktop computer, so it shouldn't be a problem.

    Thanks for your concerns, however, and I will continue to be careful.
     
  9. #9 Hand_of_Nog, Sep 4, 2008
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    DAY 11 bagseed, DAY 0 Purple No. 1

    All four purple no. 1 seeds that I attempted to germ sprouted:

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    The four sprouts in their new homes:

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    The bagseed:

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    Is the plant going to start gaining some height in a little while? My understanding is that LST should be started around the time the fourth leafset develops, and right now, the plant looks far too stout to do that.

    I got my EC meter today. It's got no company name anywhere on it, since I got it from one of those Hong Kong based ebay dealers, so I'm just going to assume that the conversion is .5. Regardless, if the plants don't like the concentration of nutes that I'm giving them, I'll always ease back, but that doesn't seem to be a problem so far.

    Does anyone know how to change the thread title?
     
  10. #10 Hand_of_Nog, Sep 7, 2008
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    DAY 14 bagseed, DAY 3 Purple No. 1

    I flushed the bagseed three days ago, and have been feeding 80% strength (0-4-8), 1.4 EC since then, and it seems to like it. The two biggest leaves on the second leafest have been showing some discoloration, however. It started out as faint green at first, then turned a definite yellow. I'm guessing that it's localized nute burn from some feeding solution splashing on the leaves when feeding, if such a thing is possible. I don't think it's a big deal, since the plant is continuing to thrive.

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    Roots began poking out of the drainage holes of the cup holding the bagseed, so I figured it was time to transplant, and moved it to a 1 gallon water jug, and began tying it down.

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    The Purple No. 1 seeds are growing noticeably faster than the bagseed, and at day three, are ahead of where the bagseed was at day three:

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    I'm hoping the discoloration on the leaves of this fourth seedling isn't a sign of anything too serious. Once again, I'm guessing/hoping that it's localized nute burn from some nutrient solution splashing on it during feeding. I've been feeding at a little under half strength (0-2-4), .9 EC.

    The entire setup right now, with one of the cardboard walls removed for visibility:

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    At all other times, the bagseed will be flanked by reflective walls, so though it looks poorly illuminated in the picture, it will recieve ample light.
     
  11. Hey man, Its kind of a late reply but i just saw this post, Sounds Good, Looks like you got things covered......Just from your first post it seemed like it could be a concern. GL hope you get a nice harvest.
     
  12. DAY 18 bagseed, DAY 7 Purple No. 1

    Nothing new really; same feeding routine. Tied the bagseed down a second time.

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    The four Purple No. 1 seedlings:
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  13. Nice grow, will need to renovate your closet better to accommodate larger plants, but it seems you have a natural green thumb. I am interested in seeing your results from the purple 1 since my cousin was looking into purchasing and pack as well. Best of luck to you and your grow.
     
  14. #14 Hand_of_Nog, Sep 16, 2008
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    DAY 22 bagseed, DAY 11 Purple No. 1

    Started feeding at full strength today (0-5-10) G-M-B, around 1.9 EC. When I say the EC of my solution, should I deduct the conductivity that the tap water I'm using initially had (.4 EC)? Because in that case, the nutes I added, had it been RO water would make my feeding solution only around 1.5 EC. Anyhow, pics:

    Bagseed:
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    I like how lush LST has made the peripheral shoots of the plant:
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    And the Purple No. 1's, which will have to be moved to the 4 gallon pots soon:
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    Been feeding these guys at a little under half strength everyday, as I did with the bagseed. They clearly have more of a sativa phenotype compared to the bagseed, judging by leaf shape and how compact the plants are, at Day 11 (scroll up for Day 11 bagseed).

    Thanks for the good luck wishes, all, and thanks to joxter for his thread, which turned me onto using coir as a hydroponic medium. Before stumbling upon the thread, I was under the impression that hydroponics would be too complicated/expensive to embark on, especially for such a small operation, and almost did a soil grow, but so far I'm glad I didn't.
     
  15. DAY 27 bagseed, DAY 16 Purple No. 1

    Female preflower on the bagseed!
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    Two of the Purple No. 1's are exhibiting a very noticable purple coloration on the petioles, like this:
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    ...and a spearmint in the corner
     
  16. Looking great man, awesome to see those nice lil white pistils.:D
     
  17. dorm room = bad bad idea imo

    i lived in a dorm, the chances of getting caught in a dorm are much higher then in a apt or house id say

    electric bill, people in and out all the time, and the biggest one THE SMELL!


    your crazy dude
     
  18. DAY 28 bagseed, DAY 17 Purple No. 1

    Moved the four Purple No. 1 plants to four gallon pots. It's getting really cramped... I can't wait to weed out the males, heh.

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  19. The grow looks very good. Plants look like they are going pretty well. I am just curious though. Since your arent growing in a sealed cabinet with a carbon filter, how are you going to keep the smell down? People will be able to smell that shit down the hall in a dorm dude...
     
  20. #20 Hand_of_Nog, Sep 25, 2008
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    DAY 2 Flowering

    Flowering was initiated at midnight, on the 24th. The bagseed and Purple No. 1's were 31 and 20 days old, respectively. I know the Purple No. 1's are still tiny, but I figured it would be better to flower all the plants earlier, since the original plan was to initiate on October 1st, which would give me exactly eight weeks before having to leave for Thanksgiving break; not enough time to let the plants mature for a few more days if I have to, and then fan dry the harvest.

    As for the smell, I'll most likely build a carbon scrubber within the next two to three weeks. It's one factor that I didn't plan for well, since I admit I underestimated its significance during my research.

    When watering the large pots, I've been watering the perimeter of the pots with <1/2 strength solution, since there likely aren't any roots near the perimeter right now anyway, and then I water around the stem of the plant at full strength, where there are definitely substantial roots. I figured it would save a little fertilizer, while allowing me to water with the proper volume of water.

    Anyway, the plants:
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    Putting out their seventh leafsets.

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