federal legalization

Discussion in 'Marijuana Legalization' started by bluelotus, Aug 11, 2011.


  1. stop being a debby downer guys...stand up with everyone and itl be legal soon after obama gets the f outta here.


    vote gary johnson
     
  2. exactly, there must be other compounds in marinal then since its potentially lethal. oh and to the guy above me, vote ron paul man. gary johnson has no chance. we all need to vote on ron since people actually know who he is.
     
  3. Very very sadly I see Obama getting elected for another term -_- it's just a little feeling in my gut.

    When I was medicating a couple months back, the only thing that would run through my mind was the corrupt world we live in and it was very depressing. I would just get lost in my thoughts about the different forms of governments that have ruled different counties since the beginning of the 20th century. Everything is about the money and will stay like that forever...

    One small example (a little off topic): The genocide in Sudan has been occurring for over a decade now and millions of people have been affected by this tragedy. The UN could have stepped in at any time that they wanted. We live in a very technological world today and anything that happens, we find out in a matter of minutes. The reason why they hadn't stepped in and ended that catastrophe was because China owns all the oil fields in that part of the country and China did not let them go in because it would have fucked up their income.

    This is just a tiny example, imagine all the other shit that occurs today..

    ps. sorry for the little rant. i am a little drunk and this shit just pisses me off.
     
  4. i will light myself on fire and run down the street naked out of rage if obama gets another 4 years in office. our world is controlled by greedy bastards who hate weed because people who smoke start to realize all the bullshit around them.
     
  5. With his current approval level he will have to be running against...what?
     


  6. Your mistaken he want to leave it up to the states to decide whats legal and whats not plus even if hard drugs are legal your not gona see everyone rushing to buy them right?
     
  7. #27 uberbuddha, Aug 14, 2011
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    I knew the logic behind marinol is BS, but never knew it killed!

    Any explanation on the differences between synthetic and organic thc that would explain the deaths? I know that the ld50 of organic thc is thousands of times more than any human could hope to ingest.
     
  8. Not one word from PubMed on why (or that) Marinol can kill. :cool: I just ran Marinol and fatality and death and got lots about traffic accidents, suicides in nordic countries, and dying cancer cells- but no human deaths from Marinol were mentioned! Not worthy of a paper, or just ignored by PubMed? :confused_2:

    But I know that natural vitamin E is D-Alpha tocopherol- all the molecules turn toward the right. Synthetic vitamin E is DL-Alpha tocopherol, a mix of left and right turning molecules. Our bodies are not as "happy" with the L forms of many chemicals including vitamin E.

    Similar thing with vitamin C. Vitamin C is a crystal in its pure form. If natural and artificial vitamin C were identical, they would form the same type of crystals when dried on glass- they don't!

    Our diet affects our health more than most of you know! More thought goes into the nutritional levels of pet food, than in people food! All most people care about is the flavor and "prettiness" of a food- so that is all the manufacturers think about.

    Allergies are on the rise. Wheat gives many people celiac disease. I think this is because of our love of white flour. Our bodies are made to deal with whole foods, not just the starch from wheat- the bran and germ are necessary!

    Well, I can go on about nutrition almost as long as I can go on about cannabis, but I have stuff to do today, so all I am going to say is EDUCATE YOURSELF!


    Granny :wave:
     
  9. A real factor to this question is the 2012 election. Depending on who is elected president will determine the progress of legalizing marijuana on a federal level.
     
  10. Never. Pharmaceutics is the most lucrative business in the world. marijuana is there #1 enemy as long as they can't find a better medicine that heals numerable diseases and symptoms with no harsh side effects they it will stay illegal.
     
  11. Well, I'm planning on camping out on Walter B Jones' office door with Granny's list, if I don't get an answer I like when I talk to his office.
    After that, I'm gonna harass the heck out of some state legislators. It's gonna take restraining orders to get rid of me :hello: Some of these asshats have known my family for years, and know just how stubborn and loud we can be. They don't call us boys from Down East "Tarheels" for nuthin! My family's been here since 1723, we're the folks they had in mind when they started calling us that :laughing:
     
  12. real soon i hope , stoned SWED
     
  13. instead of wasteing ur energy thinking negative., try to stand up and positively influence the power of vote and opinion.

    corporate slimes can control peoples vote

    I assure together we are stronger than the pharmaceutical industry.

    oh and Obama is doing the best he can do.. I think deep down he agrees with us we just need to show numbers
     
  14. Its that fucking simple. Too bad all the millionaires and corporations are greedy :( and they would probably say "too bad all the poor people are stupid"....well i would say i think its bullshit we cant have an amazing perfect society with great healthcare and less crime because you want to be fucking greedy with all your wealth and not pay for the country and society you live in, you fucking prick.[/QUOTE]

    i agree with some of your statements but not this last part...and you sound like a prick fyi...

    why would the rich and businesses pay 25 fucking % to bail out the country because of others poor choices the government made.....Yes we do need Ron Paul and i believe in less government spending especially when it comes to the drug war but what makes you think a business should have to pay out 25% ...so if i am a business owner which i am i now pay 25% of MY pay and 25% of my companies final profit where does that leave me after i pay my employees, other taxes state and federal, my suppliers, ect....
     
  15. #35 chadddd, Aug 15, 2011
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    First off i would just like to point out the corporations have been paying off our politicans for years. Its actually the corruption with all these buisnesses and politicans thats making the country go to shit.

    second off, the only way you would get 25% is if your corporation makes over $1 million a year or you personally make over $1 million a year. I dont see how 25% will ruin you. If youre making over $1million in profit a year...even if the very worst happened...you would still be at least upper-middle class and be living just fucking fine, trust me.

    blame the government. specifically blame congress and the two party system. They sunk us down 14 trillion dollars. We have to have drastic changes made in order everything.

    3rd off, you want to come up with a better idea? oh lets tax the middle and lower class more? Lets cut the rich and corporations taxes???? both of these are the worst possible thing you could do. Reagan and his trickle down economics is a LIE. it will never never never ever ever EVER trickle down. NEVER. hes a liar and puppet. And then with reagan strengthing the war on drugs...he was one of the worst presidents in the 1900s.

    Cut federal spending by at least half, and tax the rich and corporations at 25%. This will get us out in 10 years. THEN...we adjust tax rates again! Maybe we could even get rid of the income tax! or lower the tax rates down from 25% to 15% or something.

    Either that, or we can abolish the fed and the government will start printing the money.

    i would also like to add that welfare needs to be abolished right now. nobody deserves a free check every month.

    I think democrats have put a lot of socialism in this country. It needs to be taken out. Except for universal health care and universal education. If other countries around the world can have free healthcare and free college....then the U.S. can too.
     
  16. you do realize that a 25% tax rate for people who make over $300k a year and a 25% tax on corporations is actually a cut from the current rates?
     

  17. Indeed, the tax rate for the top bracket is 40% now i think?
     
  18. p51 mustang what are you smoking. The average tax rate for the wealthy in america (over 1 million dollars) is 18 percent. That's what Paris Hilton has to pay on the money she gets from her trust fund.

    The middle class has to pay around 30% and the lower class has to pay more into social security and the same amount of taxes.

    Does this make sense to you?

    The revenue that the government gets is from taxes. Corporate income tax used to make up for around 25 percent of the governments revenue and it is now only 11%.

    The reason we are in this mess is very complex. All I know is it doesn't help having the rich pay the lowest taxes (proportionately) in the country. Since 1995, the tax cuts have saved the rich (over 1 million dollars annually) 130,000 dollars a year on average. It also doesn't help having the corporations paying such small taxes.

    It also doesn't help that the U.S tax payers are bailing out the "too big to fail" banks AND then they (banks) give record bonuses to it's ceos. It also doesn't help that we give subsidies to oil companies who jack up the prices on a whim just to increase profits at the expense of consumers.

    When companies do this it DECREASES the consumer surplus making it so we can't buy as many goods. Even though it increases their profits it makes our countries economy run very inefficiently. and it makes the wealth gap between the rich and the poor grow exponentially.

    The top 400 families in the country (thats the top .01 percentile) now holds as much wealth as 154 MILLION AMERICANS do.

    America is sleeping though. We don't realize whats going on because we live in a ME society. Where if we think it doesn't effect us we don't care or put any thought into it.

    You can believe me when I say some big stuff is going to go down here soon if we as a nation don't figure it out.

    You can trust me when I say if things don't change we will see a crumbling of the American dollar (and the global economy), a run on the grocery markets, riots, militarizing by the government to keep us in check, and mass starvation by those who can't fend for themselves.

    Ron Paul 2012 if you don't want this to happen.
     
  19. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqVQ5oUkU6w]The Ron Paul Tipping Point - YouTube[/ame]

    No federal legalization necessary.
    Please pass this along.

    Ron Paul is what we need. I am positive.
     
  20. Living in Texas for most my teenage years, I completely understand, now I'm in Cali with no worries on smoking
     

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