F.D.A. Bans Sale of Flavored Tobacco

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Yellowsunshine, Sep 23, 2009.

  1. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/23/health/policy/23fda.html?hpw

    The ban comes three months after President Obama signed legislation giving the F.D.A. the authority for the first time to regulate tobacco products.

    “These flavored cigarettes are a gateway for many children and young adults to become regular smokers,” said Dr. Margaret Hamburg, commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, in announcing the ban.

    Don't you love change?
  2. man, what would we do without the gov't being here to protect us?

    i feel so safe now.

    do they realize kids smoked cigs long before all of this flavored shit even came out?
  3. They do realize that flavored tobacco is a novelty product? No smoker I have ever known, young or old, smokes "flavored" tobaccos regularly. I myself have only bought one pack of Camel Infused cigarettes and I hated them. I do occasionally smoke a grape blunt or something like that, though...

    It really does not attract kids. Tobacco is addictive, of course, but it is still a choice that people need to make, not the government.

    Fuck them.
  4. Hmmm, would hooka tobacco count as flavored tobacco? People use flavored tobacco as filler and flavor for smoking cannabis out of a hooka. As a matter of fact, all the times I've seen flavored tobacco be used is in conjunction with cannabis.... hmmm... sounds fishy.
  5. I stated smoking cigs after becoming addicted on those flavored prime times. I later found weed and got off the tobacco.
  6. i heard about this in my local head shop and bought 40 bucks worth in flavored blunt raps!
  7. tobacco is a gateway drug! :cool::rolleyes:
  8. not at all what I meant, but i could see how you inferred it form the facts presented.

    I am sure I would have ended up smoking marijuana regardless of smoking tobacco, and cigarettes even without flavored ones. i do not believe in any gateway theories. I have tried da variety of things because it is in my nature not because one thing leads to another.

    Never the less, the first thing I enjoyed smoking was flavored primetimes. I thought that was relevant to the discussion.:cool:
  9. This means that Flavored blunt wraps/ any flavored cigar will be banned. Could this be the end of blunts? Er, or perhaps we could use " Non-flavored" Cigar's.......

    I'm ashamed to be a citizen of this country and i will not stand for this tyranny. The government has no right to say what i can and cannot do unless it violates the basic law's of a society. IE stealing, killing. Its so unconstitutional it is ridiculous, Seems like the constitution is nothing but a piece of paper for these fools to rip up.
  10. does this mean no more dutchs or games
  11. Welcome to your welfare state in action. This is what many people believe the government ought to be doing, that is protecting us from our bad choices. The welfare state knows no bounds. Whether it is subsidizing zombie corporations with taxpayer dollars, regulating what we ingest into our bodies, or even providing us with "health care," big government is there to rob you then use that money to regulate you. A big activist government is not helpful to society. It is a parasite that eats away at the fabric of society, destroying liberty in favor of control. The "safety nets" people dream up, such as government funded health care, agriculture subsidies, unemployment benefits, Social Security, all of these things breed reliance on the State and promote State aggrandizement, all to the detriment of liberty.

    It's sad that so many people in this country will cheer one government intervention in our lives while at the same time complaining about another. They are all one in the same in my book. If you allow the State to regulate this industry then you have opened up Pandora's box. Government will use any new powers to serve as precedents for future usurpation's of freedom. Such is the nature of a fascist/socialist nation that many people in this nation (and quite a few on this message board) support. People want a nation that is "safe" where people are "taken care of" when they fall on hard times. If you allow the government to provide those things then they can't really complain when government starts telling you what you can and cannot ingest or any other regulations really. It is creature that they created and unfortunately you get what you ask for when it comes to oppressive government.
  12. #12 letsgetPOD, Sep 23, 2009
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2009
    The article states plainly the fda has 'authority'. This is the new soviet system, rule by council, or experts, and we have to live in a perpetual childhood, and be treated as children, in the form of regulations, fines etc, but it is a form of CONTROL. You see it everywhere, now its the health authorities, police forces, social services my ass, they dont serve anyone, they serve a system. All of these govt agencies have risen from 'services' to AUTHORITIES. Who gives them the authority to control your habits and behavior, they obviously don't work for the public, never have, and presumably at this point, never will. Its been perfectly blended in now, were fucked unless we all wake up and decide enough is enough.
  13. these bastards are taking away Marlboro smooths. don't worry though big brother will eventually tax/erradicate ciggarettes so we have a lower health care cost as a nation. this is getting worst than the damn tea act.
  14. ...dutch masters?!?!?!?!!?
  15. Stock up. :p
  16. and you know what? most people wont stand up for what they believe in like back then
  17. I talked to a lady at a local tobacco shop about the blunt wraps and she said that they will not be banned. She could be mistaken though...
  18. She's not, cigars are not included.

    Flavored cigarettes: FDA ban against flavored tobacco goes into effect -- South Florida Sun-Sentinel.com
  19. The lament of Tobacco

    "First they came for the flavored tobacco, and I did not speak out—because I was not a a flavored tobacco smoker; Then they came for the clove cigarettes, and I did not speak out—because I was not smoking clove cigarettes; Then they came for the blunt wraps, and I did not speak out—because I was not using blunt wraps; Then they came for the Tobacco, and I did not speak out—because I was not a smoker; Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me."

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