It's about that point in my 'druggie' (not really) cycle where I've begun to consider other drugs as well (I do still have a comfort zone though mind you, so heroin, crack, and crystal meth can lay off for the time being). So far my experiences with weed have been getting increasingly stronger, and I've recently been trying different dosages of Salvia 10x extract (mixed effects, on one side it's mind-blowing, on the other... not so much [for some reason I have not experienced anything too unreal or any visual effects]) which I've become quite fond of and plan on doing further tests with. Well, here's my question. I plan on doing Salvia once more before taking a tolerance break, and then after a couple of months I plan on trying out some new drugs. There's only so much information on the internet, so I was wondering if I can get some closer aid as to whether these are safe and the right ones for me. PCP I'm not really interested in PCP but I'd just like to clear up some issues on the safeness of the drug as internet sources are very unclear about this particular substance. What are its effects? What are its possible negative health effects? Mescaline Ok, now this sounds quite fun. From what I've heard about the drug is quite potent and long-lasting. Any personal experiences? What are the possible negative health effects? DMT DMT was my 'gateway' into Salvia. After researching this substance on erowid I found out about Salvia and tried it. So far the results have not been as successful as I hoped... yet from what I've heard DMT is as mind-blowing and overwhelming as a drug gets. From what I understand, there really aren't any negative health effects of DMT? Also, has anyone here tried it? Psilocybin Shrooms I'm interested in trying some of these real soon. Anything I should know before I do? Amanita (Muscaria and Pantherina) Shrooms These really interest me, esp. because of their legality. They sound very nice yet the effect descriptions are kind of vague. Can anyone clear up the effects of the two Amanitas for me? Also, disregarding the other Amanitas that are very toxic, how dangerous is the consumption of these two? Kratom Kratom sounds quite interesting too and I'll probably order some soon. Any experiences with the substance here? Morning Glory Heard some nice things about these and some bad. My question, are Morning Glory seeds really worth the trouble? Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds Experiences? Well thanks! I hope that some of you will have enough experience or are able to point me in the right direction. Also if you have any other recommendations or suggestions throw them out there!
every drug you just named is pretty hard to get (besides shrooms) i mean you might be able to get them but id say try shrooms, acid, extacty, or coke foe your next drug
experimenting with drugs.... Im on probation for fuckin up with coke and shit and went to dealin to pay for it. now Im fucked. stick to psychedelics, because your less likely to get addicted. or just weed man, its a wonderful plant.
@ondrugz Sure the mescaline and DMT may be more difficult to obtain but that is not the issue at the moment. I'm looking for a great once-in-a-while experience and am willing to invest the time into making it one. Now shrooms and acid I've been considering, but I think I should probably take the latter after having some more experience. As for X, I'm not really interested at the moment, maybe somewhere down the line I will (hell, there are also some herbal X substitutes that are supposed to be very effective). Coke... not for me right now. I have the willpower to fight against addiction, but right now I'm looking for a deep and trippy experience. @Smokentoke420 That's not the problem at all with me. I have thought this whole issue over many times and will simply not let myself get addicted (I may not be invincible but damn, no substance [at least one administered by me] is going to control me). I know when to pull out . But yeah, at the moment I am considering mainly psychedelics. @Phatso Hmm... I've heard that an 1/8 per is good for a potent trip. Should 2Gs be strong enough for me considering I'm new to them?
you think dope fiends wanted to get addicted? naw they felt they were invincible and nothin could take over their life... wrong.... seems like you are gonna stay away from that addicting shit anyways tho... i never done shrooms but i know ppl that did and they loved it... just take it in a chill place where you wont get nervous and your just worry-free
PCP - Don't do it. It's a toxic that damages your brain as it works. In addition, the effects can cause serious body damage. Many people report feeling almost super-humanly strong, which tends to lead towards hurting ones self without knowing it. I once heard about a guy on PCP who took 15 bullets to the chest and legs before falling while in a gun fight with police. Mescaline - Don't know much about it, except it seems fun. I'm going to look in to some effects and side effects a bit more, I'll get back to you. DMT - Same as mescaline. I'll get back to you. Shrooms - DO IT! If it's your first time, many people like to have a sitter, someone to watch and make sure you don't do anything to dumb. However, I have never had a sitter, and have yet to do anything damagingly stupid(yes, I made up a word). I have done stupid things, no doubt, like roll on the carpet for half an hour, but nothing that could hurt me. It's a fun time, especially if you smoke while you wait for them to kick in. Other Shrooms - In most cases, if it's legal, it's not worth it. Salvia is really the only legal "drug" that comes to mind in terms of a good time. Kratom - Seems to be very addicting and very damaging to the body. I wouldn't recommend it. Morning Glory - I read somewhere the effects are from the seeds slowly poisoning your body. Not sure if it's true, but if it is, I'd stay away.
@Sir Smoke A Lot Mentality plays a very large role in all of this. I know that I am not invincible yet I am also fully aware and conscious of my actions. If a step takes me too far then that is the time for me to take a break from substances and go into some deep thought about my life and choices (deep thought without drugs ???). Also keep one thing in mind, a majority of users go into drugs without thinking, they lay off the thinking and focus on the 'self-boosting' and drug binging. I started off with a fully aware view about the possible negatives and positives of drugs and knew the consequences beforehand. Because of this, I have never faced an issue of losing control over myself, although I do face the occasional trouble as any other smoker (once again, nothing that some thought can't put into its place). The day I become an addict is the day I begin to die. Until then I plan to stay completely in control and not overdo it for myself. Changing topics, thanks for the information about shrooms. By the way, what is the thought about doing shrooms with a close friend or two? Is it more of a lone experience or could it be a shared one? @LieutenantDank PCP: Thanks for the info! If that's true then I think I'll stay away from PCP. Just not worth it when you can get similar and possibly more potent effects from less dangerous substances. Mescaline: Get back soon as this one really interests me. The only problem happens to be its availability though... Time to do some traveling? Heh. DMT: Please try and find some information and get back to me. DMT seems like a perfect experience for me, so it would be nice to know that it's relatively safe as well. Shrooms: I keep hearing great things about shrooms, I think I'll pick some up right as soon as my tolerance break ends... As for the sitter, lend me a suggestion on the question that I asked Sir Smoke A Lot (lone or friends). I'm not very frightened about it being excessively powerful as once again... I did do quite well alone with my Salvia experiences (friends were nice to share the experience with but in a way they also 'crowded it up' too). Amanitas: Many of us have been lead to believe this but I just don't think it holds true. Keep in mind that there are many 'loopholes' in these infamous drug bans. Amanitas find their way through the anti-shroom laws because they don't contain psilocybin yet contain muscarine, with its own set of potent effects. Now I know that they work yet I have my concerns. Its effects are supposed to be significantly different. At the same time there are toxicity issues (are reported fatalities from overconsumption, mistakes, or is the shroom just very dangerous?). Kratom: Hmmm... mixed issue. On one hand its addictiveness is compared to opiates and on another its dangerousness compared to cocaine (yet in both cases it is "less than"). I don't know, from what I've researched it should be rather safe to experiment with Kratom a couple of times without any strong negative effects (I have found that most problems with Kratom addiction tend to be with past addicts of other drugs)... It's effects sound very interesting to me and seeing as how it can be ordered under legal extracts... All I can say is I'm definitely considering it. I guess I'll do some more research on it to see. Morning Glory: Heh, the effects are from LSA. Maybe you read about the pesticides that are sometimes placed on the seeds that can cause nausea when consumed?
Get some Eether. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas style. Hit that shit up on a small american flag and inhale that shit. You'll be goooneee. No I don't really recomend doing Eether, I don't think I'd fuck with it if I even knew where to get it. The only drug I want to try it Opium. I'm pretty satisfied with weed and occasionally fuck with a little blow and I pop some Blue Boys every now and then. But besides that weed only besides nicotene and alchohol are the only things I've been doing and/or am satisfied with. I'm more into psycadellic drugs like acid and shrooms. I've tripped numerous times but not in a year or two and I got some gel tabs the other month which are extremely hard to come by in my neck of the woods. I've never rolled and don't plan on it but I do like coke.
out of your list i'd do kratom. i've done it twice and i'm probably going to do it again next week. as for what you should do is up to you. you gotta find what's available and what you're most comfortable with. as for me i'd rather do some h. or a fat line of coke.
Consider looking into Ketamine, I've heard wonderful things about it. I'm in the same boat as you divine, weed and salvia are the only drugs that i've done, and i'm really interested in trying shrooms.
hmmm.... 1) it takes some time to prepare (two 15 minute boils with plant material, then boiling off excess water) 2) tastes pretty bad (not too bad with honey and chased with oj) 3) after about 20 min you start to feel a rush (i'd compare it to a coke high) 4) around 45-60 min you just chill out and get a bit itchy (sort of like dope, but not as strong) that lasts anywhere from 4-6 hours. i highly recommend it.
Mescaline seems like an interesting drug the more I read about it. Although there is no evidence for addiction tendencies(either side of it), it affects dopamine receptors, which can cause an addiction fairly easily. There really isn't a whole lot on the subject though. Mescaline on the whole isn't a widely popular drug due to it's extreme visuals and potentially mind-bending experiences. Personally, I would try it once and then see if anything negative comes from it. It doesn't seem dangerous on a first time basis. DMT seems pretty safe. It has a short duration, no addiction tendencies, and no evidence of medical problems. The only problem is how expensive it can be, upwards of $400 a gram. Now, a strong dose seems to be 35 mg to 65 mg, which would be 15 to 28 sessions. Sadly, though, each session only lasts at most half an hour. Compare that to a good ounce of weed, which could give about 56 good sessions(assuming .5g per session). So basically you get more fun for the same amount. I would do DMT, but not a lot. It's too expensive.
i've done k before. fucked me up real hard because i had half a bottle of vodka in me. hit me in less than 5 min (snorted). after like 15 min i puked all over myself and blacked out. good times. i want to do it again by itself (probably w/ weed) so i can get the real k effect. i've also done morning glory. if you are going to do it go through the extraction process. i ate 500 seeds one time and puked my brains out. i've also taken around 120 of a different brand and had a pretty good experience.
How does one snort plant matter? Is it powdered or straight up green from the earth? Is the rush on par with coke? And what kind of mellow effects? Muscle relaxer, central nervous system slower (like a bar.), weed high, or something more euphoric?
if you read what i said, you have to boil it twice and drink the water (which is usually boiled down to a single serving). the rush is very much like coke (without the rapid heartbeat). and the mellow effects are like heroin. you become very relaxed and have an awakened dreamlike state, but you aren't comitose.
I would stay away from DMT if you're waiting to try acid. I've never tried it, but it seems a little backward to be wary of acid and not DMT. What's the quote about DMT's effects? Something like "1. Load universe into cannon 2. Aim at brain 3. Fire" If you're considering shrooms, consider acid too.
Kratom and Mescaline are the risky ones (issues of addiction) so I'll watch out for those if I consider it... @LieutenantDank A gram is quite a lot of DMT, I was thinking about maybe a 1/4 of that. You are right though, prices aren't low for the duration of the drug. @jhoppa And I do love that quote . I've been talking to someone about acid and am definitely becoming more interested. There aren't negative health effects to LSD are there? I'd still love to do DMT as I'm very interested in its effects and its safety (health), yet at the moment it is just not possible. For now my decision is to wait until after the break and then pick up some shrooms. Afterwards I plan to try some acid. Info about the others is still appreciated!
Yes there are negatives to acid. Do it enough and you can have flashback trips when your not even on it. I've heard people tell me this directly as it has happened to them, so its not a myth. Personally I stay away from acid because I don't want to risk that kinda shit. Trip while your driving and your dead.