So in the picture you can see the total is $500. A stand alone power grower and a 3000w (630w actual power) grow light. My grow room is 72"L X 72" H X 23" D. The plan is each month to buy another light and power grower until I have 3. So 3 plants each get roughly a 2x2 area with a 630w light. This is just for flower. Each plant will be 1 month apart so harvest is each month. In another closet I will have a similar set up for veg. Also have a clone propegator. So the idea is a continuous cycle of harvest and cloning. Each month I should have a plant drying, a plant in the last 4 weeks of flower, a plant the mid 4, a plant for the 1st 4. And the same with veg. Start a couple clones for a few weeks, pick the one I want, move to first 4 weeks of veg and shift everything one by one over. I have the space, money, and time. My last question about the set up is do you think a 12 week veg and then a 12 week flower in a 2x2x6ft tall closet would be too long and the plant would need more space? And is that too much light for only 6ft?
Also with the amount of space after I measured and account for spacing. The plant can grow 40 inches from the top of the grow bucket before it reaches 18inches from the highest I could hang my grow light. 3000w (630w power draw). Does anyone think is isn't enough space for a plant? And if it is enough space. I will be using the scrog technique in the space. If anyone could give me a rough guess. What Do you think a single plant under a single light (mentioned above) with that amount of space could produce? 4oz? 6oz closer to a pound given the technique and grow light?
Hi, Do you YOURSELF A BIG FAVOR, stop buying your LED grow lights …... Buy your Samsung Quantum Boards from Horticulture Lighting Group .and start making your own LED HLG lights. Cree/ COB is two years ago technology...…….. The Samsung QB's are twice as efficient ….. Your throwing your money away .. and I wouldn't trust those people who sale the blurple lights and say they are 3000 Watts when clearly they are lying there ass off . I got bigger 600 watt power supplier/diver then that whole fucking light is. As you said its actually 600 watts which is one fifth of advertised wattage usage …..
1 light would have a hard time covering that size of area no matter how powerful it is. You would do much better with multiple smaller lights. I scrog in 2x4 tents and 1 light hardly makes a decent enough footprint to cover the length of the tent. You're tent is 2' longer so one light will even struggle more. I scrog and when I used to only use 1 light in a 2x4 it became difficult the keep an even canopy. Towards the right/left side of the tents the lights footprint would taper off causing slower growth. While the middle was in overdrive, growing like crazy. Leds made this even worse. Unlike the hood of an hid light that cast the lights footprint out further, leds tend to be directed more downwards When a light says something like 3000 watts but the actual draw is much less, the 3000 is meaningless pretty much. The diodes of that particular light are able to handle up to 3000 watts however its ran at 630w so the diodes last longer.
My grow space is 2ft by 2ft by 6ft tall per plant. So it's 6ft long. . So a 2ft square. The light is 18inx21in. So how in the hell would it not cover enough area? Also I don't plan on buying the light because it says 3000w I wanted to buy it because it's cheaper than a optic 6 and is still 630w. The plan is in the 6ft wide by 2ft deep closet is to have 3 plants... Eat has 2x2 to grow. And 3 lights. One light for each plant. Not one for all 3
Because the footprints of leds tend to be straight down. You did not say 3 lights bud. Just trying to share experience
I wasn't trying to be a dick. Sorry I wasn't clear. I mean. I can use a lux meter and see that the footprint isn't great but it's a little wider than straight down. I was thinking since the light is 18x21 that the 3in gap on two sides and a 1.5in gap on the other two that the light loss on edges would be negligible.
So the gist your plan is to spend $1200 on Philzon lights to light a 2x6 with 1890 watts? Hit up ledgrowlightsdepot and buy something from there. You can light a 2x6 BETTER and CHEAPER than what you’re attempting. I’m lighting a 2x4 with 3 quantum boards. You could run 5 in your space and pull under 500 watts in 12 sq ft. 5x QB288v2 r spec+heatsinks=$500 Driver=$150 Wagos, hangers, and bits=$100 More work, but leaps and bounds ahead of a Philzon. If the crux of the issue is money, just SAVE.
Ok so someone school me here. The reason I wanted the phlizon light it because even though it's marketed as a 3000w light it's still a 630w light. I have yet to see a build or a light kit or light that offers more than 630 watts for $399. Now... Too be perfectly clear in don't actually know shit about lights. All I know is I they don't make my closet hot as fuck. That being said my idea was to push like 1800 watts over 3 plants. Reason being is isn't the theory that more watts equals more bud? I mean I planned to fim, lst, and scog to try maximize the amount of kolas. And I figured that much light would give enough "energy" for the plants to develope nice large dense buds. Keep in mind I'm am very new at this and have done a bit if research over the years but everything I read is more light = more bud. So running 500w over 3 plants just doesn't seem like enough. But if you mean 3 500w lights then I could do that.
Also I'm looking at the website and all this shit is Greek to me. I just want around 500w per plant. I'd like more but not sure what the line is between maximum light and too much
Quantum boards can effectively light a grow space at 30-40 watts per square foot. Your 2x6 is 12 square feet. 360-480 watts is plenty to breed monsters in your closet. Obviously the lower the wattage, the better the spread and reflectivity you will need, as well as an even canopy. The reason the quantum boards and various iterations can do this is the efficiency of their diodes. They produce many more micromoles of energy per joule used, which means more light produced per watt, which means more plant energy per watt. Higher up front cost of the units is easily offset (especially in CA where I live) by lower power and cooling requirements. More watts does NOT equal more bud, more useable energy does! You are looking for anywhere between 40k-65k lux in flower. My picture shows my 3 board set up. If I remember correctly, in the picture it’s sitting about 10” from the canopy, approximately 60k lux across the tent at 210ish watts at the wall. There is a ppfd calculator on HLG’s website to calculate your approximate ppfd from lux readings (Dr. Meter is your friend). The plants look small because they were flowered clones, but this was a feasibility cycle, and the capability is there. 500-600 watts in your 2x6 will probably require supplemental co2 or your plants will fry. Also, remember that you can bump your indoor temps up to mid 80’s and your plants will still love you. Mine are happy up to 87-89 with 30-40% RH before showing signs of stress. It’s hot and dry here in the Central Valley, so I try to run it with what I got. 28c/kWh from PGE can hurt when the a/c never shuts off. @Tbone Shuffle to verify my info and shed light on subjects I can’t touch.
Ok is lux output a measurement to actually use? I have a cob light that was $80 and its marketed as a 1500w but draws 250w. But it will get above 65k lux
I have my seedlings in a 2ft x 4ft closet in my bathroom. The 250w cob is above the larger plants but 32in above putting out 10k lux, the phlizon (108w) is 22in above the smaller seedlings putting out around 5-7k lux. Do you think having around 350 watts in that space is frying the seedlings? I was gonna buy a co2 bag. The temps in the closet stay between 73-75 degrees and humidity bounces from 30-50%. Jesus I wish there was a kit.you could buy. I just wanna buy lights that's ready to go. Like the 2 x 6 closet is gonna be my "flower" room. Its a build in progress. I'm gonna use computer fans to run fresh air in, a carbon filter on the opposite site running out, and eventually 3 hydro buckets. I really wanted lights over each plant.
You would need the ppfd data to estimate your output using lux. HLG’s calculator can calculate their ppfd output because the boards have already been tested. Maybe someone with more working knowledge of horticultural lighting can help you do some calculations if you can find the published data from the manufacturer. Probably in the user manual or the light fixture itself. My point is that the high efficiency diodes will beat blurples due to their use of better “bulbs.” They produce more usable energy per watt, which is a secure advantage.
Have you looked into HLG's QB96's? I picked up the pre-assembled "Elite 360" fixture, which wasn't cheap, but the do-it-yourself kits look super easy to put together and would save you some $$. Two QB96's in a 2x4 seems to be working out really well for me so far and i've been following along other growers using the 96's and everything looks great!
Oh Oh yeah, after I bought the phlizon I read that the blurple lights are trash. But it's already bought. The cob light is white for some reason I get a better feeling with the cob light. Like my brain thinks it's better and it was the same price
If you are intent on a ready to go kit, they make them. How many plants in your 2x6? If you’re only running 3 buckets, you should be golden with 4 boards. That is plenty of spread, and more than a board each, since you want at least 1 per. 260W QB V2 Rspec LED Kit You could run 2 of these kits across your closet and beam the plants to heaven with 520 board watt capabilities. I would ditch the intake fans and just get a good exhaust fan. Intake fans are kind of pointless when you run a decent exhaust fan. Negative pressure is key to exhausting heat. Instead of adding intake fans, which are more points of failure in your system, you should opt to open your intake hole and let the exhaust fan do it’s job.
