Hello, I'm new to this and could really use some help. I have 2 different strains going, one being green crack and the other blue diesel. I'm approaching the 7th week of flowering with a little over a week to go with the green crack and 2 weeks for the diesel. A friend of mine set me up with the equipment and setting up my room. He's been growing for several years and said he would walk me through it, but getting a hold of him is sometimes next to impossible and so when I have a problem or question I can't rely on him to answer his phone or even show up when he tells me he will be over. I started off in the beginning with 21 plants lost 6 the first couple weeks due to rats attacking them and stripping the stalks. My friend and I set traps and bait out and they still were stripping them. I finally got online and discovered steel wool wrapped around the bottoms of the stalks would keep them away and it worked. We were using 2 lights in the very beginning for the 15 plants and they were doing great and really took off from there. We took some cuts and within a week they really started booming and filling out and needing more room so we added a 3rd light and spread them out. My friend told me by adding the 3rd light it would also help bring up the temp in the room and that they needed it and would love it. Well at about week 4 and 5 of flowering they were doing just amazing and even the bottom branches were taking off and very impressive… buds were filling out and everything was looking incredible. I did notice the room was much warmer then it had been and that some leaves at that time were turning yellow. I assumed it was normal and wasn't too concerned. I mentioned how the room was rather warm to my friend and he said it was perfect temp. Last week (week 6) suddenly not so good. We went out there and noticed the top buds on a few plants had some yellow and brown leaf near the tops. My friend said it was a sign of over fertilizing and that the next time I watered to just give plain water, but that everything looked amazing and he couldn't believe how good they were doing. The branches all had thick stalks and nice full growing buds on them to the point they were falling over and needed to be tied to the stakes to keep from falling over and leaning. A couple days later I go out to my room and more brown leaves on more of the plants then before. One plant out of them all just looked terrible. It still had buds on all the branches, but was drooping and shriveled up and with tons of dead leaves on it. I pulled a bunch of the dead leaves off that plant and noticed all the plants had quite a bit of dead leaves on them as well so I removed all the dead leaves on them all. I also noticed that the plants seemed to have even more of the burnt dried leaves then before that my friend said was from too much fertilizer, but it didn't make sense since I used straight water only once we noticed the first burnt leaves. I began to think it had to be the room was too hot or maybe the lights were burning my plants. The buds were still nice and full though, but I called my friend and told him I thought the room was too warm and he said he would stop by and take a look. Well he never showed up. I started doing some research and found this site and discovered it is full of helpful advice for beginners like me. I came across a few things that right away noticed were not what I was told by my friend and yes one was the room temp and what it should be and he had told me that the perfect temp would be about 85 to 90. From what I read on your site that is way too warm just like I figured it was. The other thing I discovered is I have no exhaust or fresh air flow in my room either. I called my friend and talked to him and said room was too hot and he said he would be over last night. He didn't show up and I went into my room and things just aren't looking good and have taken a turn for the worse. Almost all the plants have the burnt leaves on the buds and seems to be the green crack that it's happening to. I am only supposed to have a little over a week to harvest the green crack and they look like crap now. I'm sorry about the length of this post, but am so frustrated I figured I would give all details in case they were important and might help someone who knows pin point my problem. I have taken several photos and hope they will help and would appreciate any help you could give
That blows brow..alot of plants. First dont listen soley based on a friends experience. Google and grasscity is your friend. Second this site is the accumulation of thousands of hours of experience. You just have to sift through the good and bad. Also suggest read alot of grow guides. They all kinda follow a similar line. Your problem is heat. Your drying and killing off your plants. You need a exhaust system to pump out all that hot air and bring in fresh air.
At first when I saw the pictures it looked like they just had been without water, but the soil looks wet. Make sure its not getting to hot, and you want a fan blowing on the plants all time.
First off I would like to thank everyone who responded with help and not rude remarks. This site is great and I appreciate the patience given here to people like me who feel like they just failed science class and killed the class pet. I wish to god that I would’ve done some reading and research before now when it seems to be too late. Okay I will fill you in the best I can with what I am working with and was told to do. -5" pots with holes in bottom -"ESU Greenleaves Bloom Juice" for budding and flowering -30 gallon trash can with tap water (let it sit for a couple days before I use it) and he told me to put 2 -14oz measuring cups of bloom juice into 30 gallon can and stir. *was using a gallon jug per plant each watering once I saw the yellowing leaves at that time and mentioned how hot the room felt, he told me to just run straight water and no more fertilizer through them. He never told me to flush them and so I just gave them each a gallon jug of water. That was 3 days ago. Also I have the 2 different strains that harvest at different times. The green crack is the ones burnt and have 12 of them and 1 week to go. I have 3 of the blue diesel and they are just fine and not burnt with 2 weeks left to go. I now have no clue what to do with anything. Do I flush them all with the straight water and if so how much water do I run through each plant? If they aren't dry do I still flush if the soil is still moist? Should I try and remove the dead leaf now or wait till I harvest and once dried? Do I give the 3 blue diesel any more nutes with 2 weeks left? What needs to be done to harvest these 3 healthy ones properly? I know I have to get an exhaust system and a couple more fans and my bf is moving back to the state next week and can handle that, but for now I have just been keeping the entry door open to my room, while the lights are on. It opens up into a large 2 car garage that's nice and cool. I figured letting some of the heat out would be better then keeping the door closed to cook. Sorry if this is too much information or not the correct information, but have to tell you the stress of this all is eating me alive. I'm trying to figure out how everything works and I have a hell of a long way to go. Thanks Everyone
Condolences BRO I'm on my first grow and can't imagine what your going thru. How often do you water I wait till It's basically dry as far as I can stick my finger down then lift the pot to know the weight difference and how often do you feed nutes I hear most people say once a week or every other watering I wouldn't think its heat as long as its consistent I mean people grow mj outside in all climates I've seen plants in high times in the desert in Afghanistan. What's the humidity. I don't know much just trying to thro out some variables that green crack is excellent stuff I'd hate to see you lose it
Jilly, what lighting are you using? (Type, number and wattage.) For flushing, about 2-3 times the capacity of the pots should be fine. Sounds like a lot, I know. Having said that. I don't think that's your problem, but I could be wrong. I tend to agree with the replies above - it looks like they both dried out and cooked. It's not a bad idea to remove the dead leaves, they'll just dry the plants out even more. Do you have a thermometer in the grow room? If so, what temps do you have?
Okay as far as nutes go they were getting it every watering up from the time we turned them back until the last couple waterings, when he told me to run staight water through them. I was watering as needed and when the pots had a weight difference. I had to always check them all because it seemed always a few would dry out quicker then the others would. As far as lights go I have 3 lights total for the 15 plants. I am giving my best guess on the lights, but pretty sure they are 400 watt bulbs and 2 of the lights have the bigger metal hoods and the light we added is different as far as the hood is smaller then the other 2 hoods. Sorry I honestly don't know too much about the equiptment and know I should. I do have a thermometer in the room and to be honest didn't really look at it often until that one night when I opened the door and the room was so hot. It was about 91 in the room that night and not having exhaust and only 1 fan on the end of the room. Okay so as far as where I go from now with them do I flush them now even though the soil is still moist and should it be flushed just the once before harvesting in a week? The 3 blue diesel plants that are doing fine and have no burn on them...they have 2 weeks left till harvest.... do I flush them as well with the other ones and only give straight water for the next 2 weeks or ?
If they're going to be finishing up in a week, I would suggest flushing now(even though they're wet). Those diesels that are two weeks out could probably use the same and just let them ride. 91 is way too hot also. I'd aim for dropping that 10 degrees if you could. So you have three 400 watt lights? Your room looks a bit big for that amount of total wattage .. someone correct me if I'm wrong here. Maybe if your ballasts supports 600 watt bulbs you could try that next round. You're a lot further along in your grow than I am in my first grow so I don't really know anything. i have done a lot of reading though so thought I'd chime in. Good luck!
Sounds like you've been doing the right thing here. That's fine. I was just wondering if you had CFLs or HPS. 1200W sounds like a good amount of light, but it would produce a lot of heat. If you hold a hand near the top of a burnt plant, can you hold it there for one minute without becoming uncomfortable? How high are the lights above the tops of the plants? For 400W, should be about a foot. As MrSmileyFace says, it should be about 10 degrees cooler, 78-80F. An exhaust fan should cure that for next time. I would. Since they're healthy, I'd continue as normal for another week, then flush. I meant to add, don't be too worried. Looks like you've pulled off a nice successful grow. Even if you flush and finish them all off now, you'll still have done pretty well and will have some pretty nice bud to smoke.
Thanks so much to everyone I really appreciate all the helpful suggestions and time taken I will let you know how it turns out
what was your ph? 6.0-7.0 for most strains in soil. also, dont know if you cut the fan leaf off your plants, but dont do it. and nutes need to be perfect for the 3 stages of growth with a good ph, you dont want to lock them up. you dont want to feed the plants every watering(usually depends). FRESH AIR. 75-80f.
dont take offense to this dude, but by looking at your pics and info youve given(which i didnt read all of ill admit), your set up looks pretty serious....3 400w lights and 15 plants. But you didnt even get an exhaust fan in there after all that?
First thing I thought after I read this - your friend completely sabotaged your grow. But I'm probably overthinking it. Or am I.
your plants cant expire...or breath....you need heat extraction...exhaust suckin' hot air out from top and intake low on botton of other side of grow area..think of it as a stream of cool air sucked in from low and then traveling up through your plants ...and carrying hot air from lights up and away fronm plants...those temps will also cause fluffy buds and decreased potentcy..good luck
a lot of people dont update their time and dates on cameras guys....not very fishy, pretty damn common
^ That's why I didn't comment when I first noticed it. How do you update the time and date. Couldn't find any means on my cheap Kodak Easyshare camera. The time/date appears to be set during manufacture. Also, it never gets fucked up when the batts are removed for replacement. A built-in backup battery? (I have an electronics background, but know zilch about cameras.)
well most digital cameras ask you to do it when you first turn them on, but a lot of people just dont wanna do it, and skip past all that useless set up shit and start takin pictures...so thats why a lot of peoples pics show up with dates from years ago like that...but its not always the case
