Electronic cigarettes

I've really been wanting to do this. Let me know how it works/what you did to make it work.

 

Gentleman's Brand Online Store is all about that.

 

heres a how to from a gc member http://forum.grasscity.com/harvesti...-propylene-glycol-thc-tincture-recipe-me.html

 

To my knowledge, making a low contaminant vegetable glycerin tincture (cheese cloth motha fuckas! ) and mixing it with some propylene glycol should make it work fine.

I have friends with connections to a few big ecig companies, they use varying levels of PG and VG to provide vapor and as a vehicle to move THC into the lungs. I'd imagine it would clog the atomizers, i wish there was a way around that.. possibly a tankomizer?

 

I've been vaping glycerin hash tincture in e-cigs, since the days before e-cigs were even widely available to the public.


I actually had people fighting against me in other forums saying it was absolutely impossible and foolish to try, for years, before the medical community caught on!


From an older thread....


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E-Cigs: A Photo Tutorial using Hash Tincture

You need to start with a concentrate... at least dry sift hash. The tincture needs to be activated and bioavailable, or functional orally, and you still need to dose according to your personal tolerance.

If we have folks, putting just a gram or two of flowers/herb, into a fluid oz of glycerin, and expecting a single ml (or half a ml!) to do the trick in an e-cig, then their usual smoking-dose would have to be around 0.03 of a gram.... less than half, of a tenth, of a gram.

That's one tiny little bowl pack! A common 'industry standard' dose for edibles is roughly 0.35g, per edible... that's over eleven (11) times more, than using one gram per fluid oz is going to allow you to jam into a reasonably-sized cart.

You need to have realistic expectations when it comes to the tincture you're working with.. if it's not concentrated enough and you need to resort to using it orally, or sublingually, then so be it, it's not all bad!

But in the end, one way or the other, it's still going to take roughly the same amount of material you'd normally smoke, to achieve the desired effect. This is very easily accomplished with hash, but it's less easily done with herb, if you're aiming for a single ml-sized dose or smaller.

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Use a high proof grain alcohol (such as everclear) and extract the glandular material, then gently evaporate off the alcohol, turning it into a concentrate, or go to your clinic and buy the highest grade concentrate they offer. When using alcohol to make a concentrate for cooking, it's a good idea to decarb the plant matter first, then extract.


Using a measuring pipette (I'll show one below), first determine just how much tincture can fit in your cartridges. Then, use the correct ratio of concentrate to glycerin, to fit your personal dose, in that much tincture. I can vape an average cart in 7 - 15 minutes depending what I'm doing at the time, but using multiple carts per dose will require an even more leisurely approach.
You'll want to calculate how much of the concentrate you need per dose, by trying some out before you make your tincture (smoke.vape it), then process as usual using a glycerin tincture recipe.


Using pure concentrate or hash alone in your e-cig without first processing it into a tincture, is not recommended; it won't vape as evenly or as easily, and you'll wear out your atomizers and equipment much, much faster.


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When working with a concentrate or any lesser form of hash, it's still the same glandular material, and as such it requires the same processing, however, you will need to manually agitate concentrates a bit more, in order to 'loosen' them up, and expose as much surface space as possible to the glycerin. It's very easy. If working with a small amount, you just need a small ceramic or pyrex dish, and your home oven...

Photo Tutorial: Med Grade Glycerin Tincture


You can use a crock pot for large amounts, but ideally, whether the amount is large or small, the oven is the way to go (the above link helps explain why, and how to use each method as best as possible).... when working with a concentrate, you will need to frequently stop the process and manually agitate the material.

That is the only difference.

A concentrate still requires nearly the same amount of time and patience, in order to become a solution, so it may be as bioavailable as possible. It's not finished the moment the glandular material disperses, or appears to be dispersed to the naked eye. It still needs several hours of gentle heat, and ideally, a week or two of sitting time for the best results.

I've been doing this off and on since before e-cigs were widely available to the general public, for even nicotine purposes.





Concentrates and hash are ideal for making glycerin tincture, that you intend on using in an e-cigarette personal vaporizer.. these tinctures come out much more concentrated, and a bit 'cleaner', than tinctures made with flowers.








E-Cigs: A Photo Tutorial using Hash Tincture




(And a pipette, as promised... I buy them by the thousand, use them only once each, sterilize them, and then give them to patients who need them but can't find/afford them. Seems better than just tossing them out )









Remember... propylene glycol is very often an animal-byproduct and industrial waste! Much more often than pure glycerin, which can also be animal derived and a byproduct of industrial waste... be sure you read your bottles well, look for vegetable, FOOD GRADE ONLY, and NOT just 'USP' grade, which is often stored in containers only suited for topical applications by the time it reaches the consumer.. this is why so many USP grade glycerins state 'for topical use ONLY', that's how the grading system works.

If you want to eat it, or put it inside your body, you want food grade... food grade glycerin IS the same as USP, except that it's been stored in containers that will not leach toxins that are considered 'acceptable by the FDA' for only topical use (and they still may cause harm and irritation, topically).
Even oral toxicity and its consequences are much lower than the consequences of inhalation, so it's especially crucial you're using quality ingredients if you plan on vaping your end product.


Have fun, and good luck.

 

This is not what I want.

 

Okay? Why post in here then if you got nothing to contribute... Boosting your rep counts?

I am definitely saving up right now to get myself another 510 E-cig with the ULV atomizer in it. Used to own one years ago when I quit cigs and the ULV atomizer made a huge difference in vapor content and how hard it could hit. I can only imagine how this would help with vaping a glycerin tincture

Plus, I think I may have a source for a e-cig tincture with a decent amount of budder in it, supposed to be highly concentrated. I will have to wait and see if it holds up, if not then I wil just have to get some hash and just make some vis-à-vis BKS technique

 

yeah this is literally why Gentleman's Brand Online Store exists. they make pg/vg blends in bulk for cheap and blank cartridges, and variable heat setting pens. specifically with resellers in mind, i.e. local peeps who want to start up their own tincture cartridges and resell to clubs etc.

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