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Discussion in 'Sick Plants and Problems' started by chef423, Dec 26, 2012.

  1. #1 chef423, Dec 26, 2012
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    7 days in.... Anyone care to take a stab... Over watering? I clone in macro plugs then right into hydroton after rooting . Was flooding every hour for 15mins. Then backed it down to 3 floods a day just recently.

    Clones were taken from an over nueted mother...using Dutch Masters Gold line... 200ppm I'm at currently with a 5.5 pH adjusting 2x a day. 72 degree room 45 humidity. I use chlorine evaporated city water that is about 25ppm (mountain runoff). Very clean.

    Grew in hydro for 6 yrs then took about 3 yrs off... I used to always flood for. 15 drain/off for 45 per hour with no issues, ever. So why now am I feeling this is a part over watering issue?

    I think the over nueted mother is the main issue....since I have flush and gotten her right. Retaking clones in a few days just in case. But still would love to save these, they look very doable, just need a second, or 3rd and so on opinions. Ty

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  2. No one?

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  3. #3 OckhamsRazor, Dec 30, 2012
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    If you've got pH covered, I'd leave them alone. The new growth looks healthy.

    If you're worried about a few bad leaves, go out into nature and count all the plants you can find without one bad leaf. There aren't any :). If you were watering a lot and backed it off, wait them out. I have no idea how much you should flood using just hydroton...mine are in rockwool which I then pot in hydroton - that way the roots always have oxygen.

    Good luck with the grow!
     
  4. Mine are in macro plugs into hydroton... Ty for the reply

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  5. Well you're on site and can make the best assessment - especially if you have 6 years under your belt. I'd just wait them out - if you're sure your nute situation is right, it'll work itself out.

    I would recommend posting your nutrient situation in EC instead of PPM since PPM readings are dependent on which conversion the device taking the measurement is using. There are 2 - .5, and .7. PPM = EC * Conversion factor. So if your ec were 1.0' one meter would say 700ppm and the other would say 500ppm. Need to know which you have :)
     
  6. Yes you're correct about EC. I USE a Bluelab Trucheon. EC. 04

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  7. Yeah, Im with the other dude... you seem to have it covered. If anything, its probably residual effects from the over-nuted mother. Your new growth looks fine.

    Unrelated, how do you like the Truncheon? I feel like stumbling across this thread was a sign, since I was just about to look into getting one.
     
  8. Bluelab IS the industry leader. RUN and buy yourself one, worth every penny. And I have used many. Reads perfect every time, durable as heck too. Mine is 4 yrs old and works like new still. pH pens ill skimp on, cause test strips never lie. But your EC is very important.

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  9. #9 passthebilly, Jan 1, 2013
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    I used the gold range aswell. I would suggest adding silica. Increase your EC, you should be at nearly full strength by now according to the dutch master calculator. I can see lack of nitrogen among other deficiencies in those pics.

    http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/nutri...ent_Additive_Unit_Type=Millilitres&STANDARD=y

    I've even given clones full strength right away after rooting and no nute burn.

    Their growers guide is very useful:
    http://www.dutchmaster.com.au/?language=english&page=growers_guide&topic=ppm_ec_info
     
  10. Yes I have the calculator but I always go lower strength than the site says I will increase in see what happens. I did add Silica last week thanks for the advice

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  11. Thanks for all the replys everyone, as much as I do know, if love learning little tweaks from peeps and grow techniques/philosophys.

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