E-Cigarettes: A How-To With Canna

Discussion in 'Vaporizers' started by BadKittySmiles, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. Seems like my friend saw this thread today and bought on of my e-cigs off of me. Luckly I have on more to do this myself whenever I have some spare time. Nice tut!
     
  2. #62 BadKittySmiles, Nov 23, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 23, 2011
    Hey folks, here's something to help you with flavorings, courtesy of the E-cig community. :) First, a note from me....

    Oddly enough, edible, water-soluble artificial flavors are usually the easiest, and safest to work with... you should not work with oil-based flavorings unless you have a LOT of patience... it can take months for a 'real' oil-based flavor, or a flavor that is insoluble in water, to properly, and more importantly, safely blend.

    Certain completely natural plant essences, when heated and inhaled, can be overpowering to a degree that is harmful to your health, if they are inhaled in concentration.. not to mention the potential for scarring, and lipid pneumonia. So choose your flavors wisely, and be sure you work with the type you have, according to its requirements. 'Real' and true oil-based flavorings need MUCH more time.. the below mentioned artificial flavors blend fast, and start to taste great within the first few days... yes, it takes a few days for the flavors to mingle properly.
    If it tastes too strong (or too weak) or just plain odd, the first day or two, that's normal.

    Some of the US e-juice suppliers actually mix up small, customer-sized batches, only as they are ordered, and they let their customers know there is a waiting period where they hang onto the juice for a few days before shipping it out.. it used to be they sent them right out, with a warning to let them sit, but many people diregarded that warning, tried the juices straight off, and assumed the flavors were just nasty and disappointing. :)


    I personally really like the LorAnn: amaretto, bluebuerry, blackberry, raspberry, butter rum, strawberry, pina colada, chocolate hazelnut (not the reg chocolate)... and I don't care for the cotton candy, until I've added some strawberry or raspberry to it [​IMG]
    One of my least favorites, the 'bavarian creme', really needed help. I sort of hated it off the bat (lol) but after a little blending with a few other flavors, and after enough rest-time, it comes around nicely and has its place. If you like mint, go for the artificial wintergreen, rather than the true oil.. it's surprisingly nice.

    Eggnog, is one of my very favorites... a terrific evening/bed vape [​IMG]

    Those are just my regulars :p


    Tip: Personal preference aside, each flavor is of a slightly different concentration. Three drops of one flavor, may be WAY too strong if using another. So you very likely won't be using the same, or a consistent amount of flavor, for a consistent amount of tincture. That's where the percentages listed with the individual flavors below, will come in!


    From the E-cig community:

    " This is mainly a comprehensive collection of others' posts and various peoples' opinions on flavors.

    Credit goes to Scottes, Scubabatdan, Sun Vaporer, Þornbjörg, DVap, Kurt, AlexTM, SysEx, anyone who contributed in any way, and all forum staff.


    WARNING: For newer DIYers, avoid buying those that are insoluble in water at first - they are very strong and more difficult to work with. While I have not included ratings for insoluble LorAnn's, many are good. Some people use the oils, but they usually mix them with alcohol first so they mix better with the final solution.
    Use food coloring and additives at your discretion - they haven't been fully tested.
    A more advanced chart on LorAnn's safety can be found here: http://www.exogenesis.co.uk/Loranne1.htm

    You can get them in 1-dram (3.7ml) or 1-oz. (30ml) bottles. It's best to try drams to start with. Good places to buy LorAnn's flavors are:
    LorAnn's website (all sizes)
    Individual 1-drams LorAnn Oils Gourmet Flavoring .125oz.
    Individual 1-oz. LorAnn Oils Gourmet Flavorings
    LorAnn's in Australia (mostly 1-dram)

    Example Flavor <-- some LorAnn flavors are called Oils, but often don't contain oil.

    Contains: Ingredients
    Solubility information <-- water soluble is safest, though insoluble ones are sometimes soluble in PG.
    Shipping information from LorAnn's website.
    Rating: 1 - 5, 1 being disgusting and 5 being absolutely delicious.
    Strength: X%, this is the proportion of the final mixture people have enjoyed most when it is the only flavor added.

    =====================================

    Almond Oil
    Contains: Artificial flavoring.
    Insoluble in water.

    Amaretto Flavor
    Contains: Artificial flavor,Capryllic triglycerides.
    Mostly soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Anise Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Anise Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Apple Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 25-30%

    Apricot Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Water, Alcohol,Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 1/5
    Strength: ?%

    Banana Creme Flavor

    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol,Yellow 5.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Bavarian Creme Flavor (Vanilla)
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Ethyl Alcohol, Water.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 5-10%

    Black Walnut Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 5-10%

    Blackberry Flavor
    Contains: Aritificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Blueberry Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol, Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Brandy Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Bubble Gum Flavor
    Contains: Alcohol, Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Butter Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 2/5
    Strength: ?%

    Butter Rum Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Butterscotch Flavor

    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Water, Propylene Glycol,Caramel Color.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3/5
    Strength: 5-10%

    Caramel Flavor
    Contains: Water, Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Champagne Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3.5/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Cheesecake Flavor
    Contains: Glycerine, Ethanol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 25-30%

    Cherry Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Alcohol, Propylene Glycol,Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 3/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Chocolate Flavor

    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Water, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol,Red 40, Yellow 6, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 2/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Chocolate Hazelnut Flavor
    Contains: Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Cinnamon Oil
    Contains: Natural and Artificial Flavors.
    Insoluble in water.

    Cinnamon Roll Flavor

    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 25-30%

    Clove Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Clove Leaf Oil.
    Insoluble in water.

    Coconut Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3.5/5
    Strength: 25-30%

    Coffee Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Water, Propylene Glycol, Caramel Color.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 2/5
    Strength: 5-10%

    Cotton Candy Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Cranberry Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: ?%

    Cran-Raspberry Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Ethyl Alcohol, Water,Citric Acid, Propylene Glycol,Tri-ethyl Citrate.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Creme De Menthe Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Natural Flavor,Blue 1, Yellow 5.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 5-10%

    Eggnog Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Yellow 5 & 6, Red 40, Polysorbate 80.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    English Toffee Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Ginger Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Ginger Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Grape Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water,Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Grapefruit Oil, Pink, Natural
    Contains: Natural Pink Grapefruit Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Guava Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Honey Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Horchata Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%
    Note: Described as creamy cinnamon like Aftershock Cinnamon Liquer.

    Horehound Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: ?%

    Keoke Coffee Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor,Caramel Color.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Key Lime Flavor
    Contains: Natural Flavors.
    Insoluble in water.

    Lemon Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Lemon Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Lemonade Flavor
    Contains: Natural and Artificial Flavors.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Licorice Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 1-10%

    Lime Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Lime Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Mango Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Ethyl Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Maple Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Water, Maple Sugar, Glycerine.
    Soluble in water.

    Marshmallow Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Menthol Eucalyptus Flavor
    Contains: Natural Flavoring, Capric/Caprillic Triglycerides.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Mint Chocolate Chip Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3.5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Nutmeg Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Nutmeg Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Orange Cream Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water,Polysorbate 80.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Orange Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Orange Oil.
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Peach Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Yellow 5, Red 40.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Peanut Butter Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Caramel Color.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Pecan Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: ?%

    Peppermint Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Peppermint Oil.
    Insoluble in water.

    Pina Colada Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3/5 - Highly varied reviews
    Strength: 15-20%

    Pineapple Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 3/5 - Highly varied reviews
    Strength: 1-10%

    Pistachio Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Ethanol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 1/5
    Strength: ?%

    Plum Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Mostly soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Pomegranate Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4/5
    Strength: ?%

    Praline Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Pralines And Cream Flavor

    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Water.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Pumpkin Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavoring, Triglycerides.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Raspberry Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water,Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Red Licorice Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor,Red 40, Blue 1.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 1/5
    Strength: ?%

    Root Beer Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Water, Caramel Color, Polysorbate 80, Potassium Sorbate.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 1/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Salt Water Taffy Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Water, Polysorbate 80.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Sassafras Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavors.
    Insoluble in water.
    Strength: <5%

    Spearmint Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Spearmint Oils.
    Insoluble in water.

    Strawberry Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor, Ethyl Alcohol,Red 40.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: 10-15%

    Strawberry Kiwi Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 4.5/5
    Strength: 20-25%

    Tangerine Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Tangerine Oil (Aso known as Mandarin Oil).
    Insoluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.

    Teaberry Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor.
    Slightly soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: ?%

    Tropical Punch Flavor (Passion Fruit)
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Alcohol.
    Soluble in water.
    Not eligible to ship by air.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Tutti-Frutti Flavor
    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol,Red 40, Blue 1
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Vanilla Butternut Flavor

    Contains: Artificial Flavor, Water, Propylene Glycol.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: ?/5
    Strength: ?%

    Watermelon Flavor
    Contains: Propylene Glycol, Artificial Flavor,Red 3, Red 40.
    Soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: 15-20%

    Wintergreen Oil, Artificial
    Contains: Methyl Sal.
    Slightly soluble in water.
    Rating: 5/5
    Strength: ~5%

    Wintergreen Oil, Natural
    Contains: Natural Wintergreen Oil.
    Insoluble in water. "



    I mix mine with a little grain alcohol and (RO or distilled) water first, to the desired strength, and then add my hash tincture....

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    This is prior to shaking, and in a few days (as seen in the spray bottles) the flavors and tincture blend nicely. :)
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    Hope this helps, guys :wave:
     
  3. what kind of tincture is it? will this work with the alcohol extract tincure? or glycerol only?
     
  4. This is fucking amazing.
     
  5. Very cool mixing . Nice job presenting good info
     

  6. FYI there are many USA made MOD's ( non CHina MFG) Ecigs out there FYI and most of these USA MFG's have very good if not exceptional customer service. :wave:

    Just so you know , I am a seasoned Ecig vaper BTW :D
     
  7. #67 ickyboobaa, Dec 4, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 4, 2011
    I just wanted to say that this is one of the BEST threads on the internet! I picked up an e-cig starter kit last week to quit analog cigs, and it is working incredibly well for me. Of course after a day with my e-cig, I started thinking about using it with thc oils and tinctures since I love bho and bubble. Thank you BadKittySmiles for dropping your tincture and e-cig knowledge! You are a rockin badass thc tincture and e-cig/vaporizer genius. :) I wish I knew a girl as passionate and involved as you are about good medicine and vaporizers.
     
  8. nice icky, what kind of e cig did you pick up?
     
  9. #69 ickyboobaa, Dec 4, 2011
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 4, 2011
    I got the eGo-T, and I am really enjoying it. Using it with cartomizers and it hits and tastes great! Now, I'm trying to get up the nerve to experiment making an e-liquid with 1/2 or 1/4 oz. of top quality. I would hate for it to not work out after going through a trial and error because it is such top notch medicine. I will probably wait to get some more equipment and extra meds before I take the first steps on this venture.
     
  10. Thanks soo much. I just started a 2oz batch to fill my apartment with weed fog this week.
     
  11. wow, that's awesome.
     
  12. So how do I make the canna fog juice?!?!?! Omfg so exite!!!
     
  13. #74 oceansgreen, Jan 23, 2012
    Last edited by a moderator: Jan 23, 2012
    i cant believe i haven't yet subscribed to this thing!
     
  14. Dude, there is even an iPhone/android app for Grasscity.com
     
  15. OK. I think this is definitely a question for an experienced pro like Badkittysmiles.

    So my difficulty in the whole e-cig w/thc has been breaking down my concentrates in the glycerine to be vaped. I had also started making different kinds of sublingual tinctures. After making one batch of green dragon concentrate oil, I decided to thin it back out with some everclear. It seems to me that the oil is bioavailable in the everclear. So I then mixed it with some glycerine and it appears to stay bioavailable in the glycerine with the alcohol. I tried it out and it still vapes good in the e-cig. It just doesn't have any potency.

    So my question is this: Does my glycerine need to go through he gentle heating process? Will this even work? Curing time? Am I on to anything? BADKAT, HELP!
     
  16. I love this great explanation. Also like the fog machine vape. If you are looking for something simpler I just bought a new vape pen called a trippy stix and all you do is drop a piece of hash wax in it is ready to vape, no liquid but it works perfectly and so simple
     
  17. ^^ Hmmm wonder if you're marketing that product lol
     
  18. Ok 1st off, let me say i have been googling for days now and have came across this thread alot, made an acct JUST so i could post this. All I wanted to know was if i could put hash oil in an e-cig. Initially i believed that all e-cigs and vape pens were exactly the same. THEY ARE NOT. As i was about to buy an omicron, i read that all those vape pens were shams, just e-cigs with a new label. THIS IS TRUE! I know thats contradictory but just follow me. I searched forever about what exactly the specs are for vape pens and e-cigs. Did not come up with much. BUT, long story short, i learned that vape pens are in fact e-cigs with A: stronger batteries B: low resistance atomizers. After i found all this out. I STILL wasnt sure if hash oil needed to be watery for an e-cig, and if i NEEDED a tincture. YOU DO NOT. So for everyone who ended up here because they were wondering if you can simply just buy a cheap e-cig, get some hash oil from a club, and load it up, as simple as that. YES YOU CAN.....i dont know how many hours ive been going in circles all over the internet and could not find a single person who said this FOR FACT
     

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