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Discussion in 'Music genres, Bands and Artists' started by RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 13, 2007.

  1. #1 RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 13, 2007
    Whaddup ya'll. Ruse here, kickin' it through another beautiful day in the ville.

    So my moms bought a drumset because she randomly decided that she wanted to play the drums, took up lessons, and she's actually doing ok. Anyway, I've played guitar for about 3 years now and I always figured that drums would be impossible for me because my biggest downfall with my guitar playing is the fact that I have a very hard time keeping time. I understand how it works, and I can write shit that's in time, but when it comes to actually playing it over and over, I almost always fucked up. So, though I was excited that now my drum playing friends and I could jam at my house, the thought of actually playing them never crossed my mind because I just assumed I wouldn't be able to.

    after fucking around on them for a little while, it suddenly clicked, and wow. I love playing drums even more then guitar now I think, but maybe it's just because they're new to me. Point is, since I want to pursue them now, I want to make sure my kit is straight. So what's up with puttin the pillow in the bass drum?



    ...wow I typed all that and really I only had that one question. Stonnned.
     
  2. #2 vincent47, Mar 14, 2007
    lol all I use it for so it doesn't overpower the room with echo and reverb(depending on the rooms acoustics),muffles it a little.
     
  3. #3 Weed_Beer_Metal, Mar 14, 2007
    It dampens the sound, makes it a little less "boomy" and a little tighter sounding. It's all about adjusting the tone.
     
  4. #4 RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 14, 2007
    awesome guys, thanks. Any other jewels of advice like that?
     
  5. #5 Weed_Beer_Metal, Mar 14, 2007
    Don't wipe yourself with poison ivy
     
  6. #6 theVirtuoso, Mar 14, 2007
    niiice gettin into drummin. iv been a drummer for the better part of a decade now. got myself a Pearl and some Zildjian cymbals.

    What kinda set is it?
     
  7. #7 RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 14, 2007
    a Hohner rockwood, I guess? Says Rockwood by Hohner on it.
     
  8. #8 vincent47, Mar 15, 2007
    yeah get some of those tone control rings for your snare and toms cost about $8 bucks. They make the toms and snare not have so many overtones,sometimes some people like that though so it's a preference,other than that get a double bass drum,or peddle(cheaper) and go nuts!!:D
     
  9. #9 RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 15, 2007
    Yeah I was planning on getting the double bass eventually, how much do they cost?
     
  10. #10 vincent47, Mar 16, 2007
    a double bass pedal generally costs $100-400, for another bass drum depends what kinda drumset you have.
     
  11. #11 theaffiliate, Mar 17, 2007
    Hey man, great to see you're taking up the kit. Regarding the whole kit setup, its extremely important to find one that fits you like a glove, but always take a look on the internet / shows / wherever to check out other kits, and how they're setup. Being able to move around the drums comfortably is nothing short of essential.

    The pillow in your bass will dampen some of the "overtones", and bring out alot of the punch from your kick. Don't be afraid to experiment with different positions; up against the batter or resonant head, etc. Some companies, like Evans (www.evansdrumheads.com) make muffling pads specifically designed for this purpose. I have one, its great.

    If you like posting on forums, check out www.pearldrummersforum.com, probably the best drum forum on the internet. Be sure to PM if you have any questions. :D :smoking:
     
  12. #12 golden_nugget, Mar 18, 2007
    i slow down there dude. stick with a single pedal for a bit until you are a capable player. you dont need a lot of toys to start out with. get a double kick in a few years or something. if you want to be a good drummer make sure you practice with a metronome too.

    peace
     
  13. #13 vincent47, Mar 18, 2007
    dude if you practice a lot and/or take lessons you can become real good in a year playing some double bass stuff, he's going to have to use the hihat pedal which is on the left anyway.
     
  14. #14 JohnnyBlunt, Mar 18, 2007
    Stick control is vital!

    It should be on top of your list of things to master.

    Dont try to be a flashy ass drummer yet, youll get there in a few years. For right now, start off practing stick control then move on to snare patterns, then add in the toms.

    Take it slowly to avoid improper technique, and a teacher is always a huge help.
     
  15. #15 Weed_Beer_Metal, Mar 18, 2007
    When learning double bass, don't constantly try to go as fast as humanly possible. You should focus on playing with control, rather than speed. Focusing just on speed leads to bad technique.
     
  16. #16 RuseOfMetacarpi, Mar 19, 2007
    Thanks for the advice guys, sorry, I hadn't kept up with this thread very well.


    Fear not me abusing my double bass pedal, one thing I can't stand is just a constant wailing double bass, and there's nothing more than a great, complex double bass beat that I like to hear in drums. Though sometimes my guitar playing leans toward metal, I wouldn't let myself just play blast beats all day on drums.
     
  17. #17 jiffgins, Apr 3, 2007
    derek roddy from hate eternal has some good exercise and warm up techniques, im sure you can find them somewhere.
     
  18. #18 Selkies17, Apr 4, 2007
    Things to consider as a drummer:

    1.) Buy a metronome, use it as much as you can.

    2.) Practice makes perfect. Don't get too lazy or overconfident.

    3.) Practice stick control and learn to read music also. Its going to help you alot, even if you don't plan on reading music in your drumming career.

    4.) Personally, I'd avoid using tone rings and other dampeners. Recently I've been experimenting with tuning the best that I can. I took all the tone rings off of the drums, and the pillow out of my bass drum. You get much better feel/connection to your playing without these items, and if you tune each drum correctly you should get a nice tone anyways.

    5.) If you're serious about your hobby, don't be stingy. I'd recommend getting some quality stuff. If you go and buy beginners cymbals and hardware you're going to outgrow them pretty fast, and you'll just be wasting money. Stay away from Zildjian ZBT, ZXT, and the like. Don't bother with Sabian B8, XS, or other low quallity models. This goes for your bass pedal too.

    If you're really serious about using double bass in your style, think of how you want to use it. If you're going to use it alot, and play very fast stuff, I'd recommend springing for an Axis double bass pedal. I'd also recommend getting another bass drum with another single pedal before I'd recomend getting a double bass pedal, as you get a better sound and feeling for it.

    Don't listen to people that say you shouldn't get something just because you're not experienced enough. If you know you're serious about playing, and want to get to a pro level, its pointless to get gear that won't give a pro feel or a pro sound.
     

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