the more i live my life, the more i am unconvinced that what i am experiencing is 'real'. more and more, my dreams become life-like, and my life becomes dream-like...surreal. in my dreams, i can see, hear, taste, touch, smell, think, feel pain, read, write, run.....everything. even without the use of drugs, i can achieve states of consciousness where what is 'real' is only just a thought. images, sounds, scents, and all other sensations are just electric signals. how do i know that i exist?
That is strange. I have read about studies on dreaming and the popular theory is that dreams are your brain getting rid of useless information. I think it probably is just your brain wandering, because your brain never sleeps.
We all live in our own perception. We have the ability to chance how we see the world, therefore nothing is real. I've had dreams where I would smoke a joint and get high. We are creative beings, we create art and our art is our reality.
the thing that bothers me the most is when i have a dream that screws up my entire day. i wake up, and i still don't know for sure if i'm awake, then i realize that i am, but i also remember how detailed and insanely sincere my dream was. then, throughout the day, i keep remembering blurbs from my dream. that happens to me a lot. sometimes, i'll just be walking along, and i'll for some reason remember part of a dream from six years ago. not to get too weird, but there is this theory out there that states that humans share this over-ruling consciousness. studies have been done where isolated people did crosswords from the day paper and then day-old papers. even though there shouldn't have been any difference, they scored twenty percent better consistently. it was like they were actually being streamed the answers (waking life). wierd. if that was true, that might explain why people everywhere seem to always have some things in common.
Great movie! Anyways, you can't weird me out so don't worry. I say just go with IT, see where it leads you. Start writting down your dreams too, then go back to them every once in awhile. It'll help you tell the different between your seemingly "awake" state, and your "dream" state.
'For who is to say which is the inner world and which is the outer? What we make reality may be what alone decides, and what we define as dreams may be the greater truth.'
Ehh yea i dont think so. You ever fall off a cliff in your dream? How bout die. Ever get chased by a monster? When you wake up your back on earth wherever you went to sleep at. Its your brain running while your body rests.
hmmm i dont think dreamz will come true , if dreams are real and will come true.. i still waiting to be god but i am not .. LOL
I know what your talking about man, just stop focusing on it cause it's not true. It will fuck with your everyday life and just make you a complete mess. Just forget about it and move on, enjoy your reality and your dreams. You don't have to pick one.
that sort of happens to me at times.. my dreams are so lifelike that i have trouble remembering a few days later if something that happened was in the dream or real.. or if someone said something-was it in my dream or in real life
What if dreams are your mind as it would be without any interferance from the physical body? and our body is just a flaw in our design. What if trees have spirits like us and are constantly dreaming but live without pain or emotion. kind of a weird thought but it just hit me while i was reading this thread and i thought it appropriate to share
Only a vegtable in the physical world, but who knows what they are experiencing. I have had the same experience with "reality" since I have been introduced to different states of being. I have basically felt the phenomena of a waking consciousness and the paradox of how nothing can be proven, even that.
We actually can know what they are experiencing through techynology that measures the electricity waves in a brain. We can see them thinking, what they are thinking about is a different story.. -My point with the 'vegetable' is that if someone was living in a dream world, they are technically living by themselves. If they sit around and dream all day un-aware of the conscious world, they are living by themselves. If food is an object our body needs for sustanance and our body is simply a drawback to our intelectual part of our 'minds' then why does the brain (which is where all thoughts are processed) need consciousness in order to function on a basic level?
I read this over and over but don't get what you're asking. But i thought of this: WEll, it doesn't make sense that our body is a drawback to our intellectual minds, because our mind IS a part of our body. That's...sort of this giant paradox of humans. We NEEd our body's consciousness to develop our brain...but then this bodily consciousness...this dependence on and concern with food and materials...is our major drawback. That's why I think our main lesson and goal as humans is to balance the intellectual, the invisible thoughts and consciousness, with the physical consciousness
The thing about the mind is that it cant be located. We know it exists. We can measure electrical activity and salt flow with technology today, but we still cannot locate the mind. The mind would be defined as the invisble realm in where all your thoughts are processed. Could the mind still function without the brain? .. THAIcuisine. Where i was getting at with the question is, if our bodies and physical world are just a drawback to our intelectual thoughts (like sitting around and dreaming) then why do our brains have to be working for this? Our brains are part of our physical body and is used all the time. You use it to solve problems, or to well...do anything really. If our physical being was just a drawback then why do we to keep our brains working? If the brain ceased to work your physical body would die and, well who knows what happens after that. But why is it that you need to be physically alive to dream (staying alive would involve living in the 'physical world' and most likely eating something and drinking some water) if your physical body was a drawback to our minds. I am not saying that its not possible. I am simply stating if this theory was true, then death would be an overall greater thing. Being freed from entrapment here on earth and from our own bodies...
Maybe some things in the world we're not supposed to know...but man kind doesn't wish to believe that sadly.
We'll we do know it is in the brain for sure, and the brain controls the nervous system which then controls all the actions in the body. (not to say we dont need the rest of our body!). But imagine a person in a car, and the person represents the Mind, and the car represents the body. The Mind does need controls to actually work the car, like keys, gears, pedals and the stearing wheel. Now compare it to out bodies. The Mind is the real 'self' and it is situated in the hub of this vessel we call our bodies. It is situated in the brain because thats where all the 'controls' are located, such as hearing, seeing, touching, smelling and taste. Those five senses are all (in the end) percieved by the brain/nervous system. So the brain is only a tool, just as my keyboard is a tool to write this. Do my hands still exist without the keyboard? without the tool? they sure do. All of the above is my opinion//