Do you think that raiding medical mj dispensarys could lead to civil war?

I doubt it. Though over 50% of the population is for legalization, not all of them would fight for it. The only way a civil war would happen is if the federal government were to up the irons - I fucking love Iron Maiden - and do something drastic that would leave a backlash.
(Publicly executing drug dealers, for instance.)

Edit:
I also love American Dad. TYSM

 

Uh, no. And using violence to get weed legalized is against everything our movement should stand for anyways.

 

It could very well happen. Cops killing innocent people over cannabis and cannabis laws will eventually piss enough people off that we take back our rights from the police with or without violence. If they don't want to get hurt or lose their life trying to take away citizens rights (over a cancer curing plant) for a goverment that does not care about us they should find another job. To many cops like the power trip they get (you cannot argue with video evidence) and at some point we will show them they are human beings just like everyone else whether it comes down to silent protest, talking, or "violence".

 

Civil war? That seems pretty extreme. There will be another civil war in the US, but it won't be because of weed.

 

Not enough people care for weed that passionately to put their lives on the line for it. I know I wouldn't. And I know my whole family wouldn't either (who are also pro-legalization). Out of the 50 percent who want weed legalized, only a VERY small minority would risk a violent revolution for the plant.

If revolution is what you think it will come to, we should follow a model like Gandhi set forth and that Martin Luther King Jr. eventually adopted. They knew how to protest and get shit done. There may be casualties along the way but by not letting their antagonizing get to us, and by taking the higher road, you send a message stronger than violence can.

 

Not enough people care for weed to put their lives on the line for it? Are you serious? Look at all the people in jail and or already dead for doing just that. You think going to jail over this plant is not putting your life on the line? Sitting in jail not being able to live your life like you want is losing it. My friends and family would and have. People are dying every day for this plant because of prohibition. Not just in America but around the world. Just look up drug war deaths. The fact you would even say that shows your ignorance. Just because you and your family wouldnt stand up for yourselves dont speak for the rest of us. A cancer patient who is going to die EITHER WAY would put their life on the line to use a cure that works! I put mine on the line everyday because cannabis is the only meds that work for me. Just because you wouldnt doesnt mean everyone else is just like you.

"Out of the 50 percent who want weed legalized, only a VERY small minority would risk a violent revolution for the plant."

Lol where are your facts for this opinion. Oh thats right its your opinion and doesnt mean diddly squat. Im glad you try to speak for half of America. Cannabis being legalized would bring about a green industrial revolution. Hemp is superior to almost every textile on our planet. That is worth fighting for in and of itself!

"antagonizing get to us, and by taking the higher road, you send a message stronger than violence can."

People have been protesting the whole time weed has been illegal so your theory has 40+ years of failure behind it. The law makers just sit and laugh at your message. Then they turn and tell you "oh we will help the cannabis patients and not raid places ect" then laugh all the way to the bank as they do just that.

Im not saying i condone violence but if it ever comes to mass homes being raided and people bring thrown in jail or killed left and right (thats already happening, every 37 seconds a pot user goes to jail) i know tons of people that would tell the police to fuck off with their mouths or lead if it came down to something happening like the above statement. If you want to be a sad pawn in the governments plot go ahead but I will stand up for mine and my fellow humans beings right to use a plant no man should be able to make illegal!

 

Not enough people care for weed to put their lives on the line for it? Are you serious?

Yes. How many people would it take to overthrow a government? There's your answer. How many people are going to risk dying for one little part of their lives? That's the point. Not many. I can speak for "half of America" as you put it because I know most people who smoke weed won't even go hold a protest sign for the cause or even get their asses up to vote for it, let alone RISKING DEATH. That's not ignorance, its common fucking sense.

Where are your facts for this opinion. Oh thats right its your opinion and doesnt mean diddly squat.

Yes, that is my opinion. Posted on a public forum. Not based on facts, but grounded in reason. When people won't protest, won't vote, won't do anything but sit on their asses, what makes you think they will pick up guns and start a revolution over fucking weed? There are way more important issues in this country than legalizing cannabis. Issues that may warrant a revolution. The majority though, will not put there lives on the line for something that is insignificant to most of us. Apparently this stance is so crazy it warranted a bunch of insults. Smh.

You think going to jail over this plant is not putting your life on the line?

By that logic, me smoking weed means I'm putting my life on the line because I have a chance of going to jail. Ridiculous.

People have been protesting the whole time weed has been illegal so your theory has 40+ years of failure behind it.

Ya, and look at all we have accomplished in the last ten years alone, the age of free information and the internet. Propaganda cannot be used as effectively anymore. We are still making progress, exponentially actually. Weed will be legalized, its inevitable.

A summary...me and my family are sissies....apparently i'm against MMJ...my opinion means diddly squat...my "theory" has failed (???)....i'm a sad pawn in the governments plot.

Ahem...apparently you are psychic. Because I mention none of this. All i said is I am not going to KILL other human beings to legalize weed. And I will not be killed in trying to get weed legalized. There are better ways. Proven ways. Take a chill pill dude.

 

Fight them on their own battle ground, the courts. We must educate the people on how to properly conduct themselves as jurors. Jury nullification for the win!!!

 

OP, use your brain, you know the answer to this question

 

No chill pill needed.

"Yes. How many people would it take to overthrow a government? There's your answer. How many people are going to risk dying for one little part of their lives? That's the point. Not many. I can speak for "half of America" as you put it because I know most people who smoke weed won't even go hold a protest sign for the cause or even get their asses up to vote for it, let alone RISKING DEATH. That's not ignorance, its common fucking sense."

That is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this forum. JUst becuase your friends and people you know are lazy doesnt mean we all are. Again you should speak only for yourself.

Your line "How many people are going to risk dying for one little part of their lives? The majority though, will not put there lives on the line for something that is insignificant to most of us. Apparently this stance is so crazy it warranted a bunch of insults. Smh." just shows you dont know what you are talking about. Im sure the people wiht cancer and other conditions that weed cures think that it is insignificant too. Yup the plant that heals them they dont care about. LOL

"By that logic, me smoking weed means I'm putting my life on the line because I have a chance of going to jail. Ridiculous."

Maryjane is HUGE part of ALOT of peoples lives. Its insignificant to you again dont speak for everyone. People die every day over this plant. If you cannot understand this it is not my fault. Yes in some countries you get caught you get EXECUTED! Yes in some states if you get caught your life is over. You can lose your job or will never get a good job or get student loans, ect. So yes you could lose your life.

"There are way more important issues in this country than legalizing cannabis"

Not true, first i would think that the CURE FOR CANCER and tons of other "medical problems" is a HUGE AND IMPORTANT ISSUE, if you look at the stats from the "drug wars" and all of the death and destruction of families it has caused you would see it is a very important issue. When our country is BROKE and only going into the hole more how could this not be the most important issue? Job creation alone (marijuana and hemp) if cannabis was legalized would be worth it + all of the other good factors that come with it.

Your summery left out HUGE key parts of what i was saying on purpose so in summery, you are a moron.

 

Nope.. don't think it'll lead to civil war. It usually takes a lot to start a civil war, especially in a mostly secure country like the united states. civil war could happen with a great economic collapse, or with a complete crop failure and sky rocketing food prices to the point of americans starving on the streets. America would need something severely drastic to happen to cause a civil war. Our recent recession didn't cause a civil war, the great depression didn't cause a civil war. The last thing that caused close to civil war situations was the race riots of the 60's, the civil rights movement and the anti war movements. In any time in the united states history since our civil war, I think the 60's were the closest we came to it.

Could MJ dispensary raids cause civil unrest? Yes. Could it cause riots? Sure. But civil war.... I doubt it.

The only way I could see MJ/hemp causing a civil war is if many states started to make millions/billions off of growing hemp and then the government tried to come in and make hemp illegal. States and areas then would have a financial reason to try to rebel/separate from the country. Even then I'd still doubt that weed/hemp would in any way cause a civil war.

 

Just shows I don't know what I'm talking about? Well geez, thanks for explaining how that is invalid! lol And thanks for explaining which "HUGE key parts" i left out so I can go back and destroy those idiotic ideas too. And thanks for not countering one idea I put forth. "hurr durr your'e wrongz becuz you are a moar-on!"

Maryjane is HUGE part to ALOT of peoples lives.

I don't disagree with this. A LOT, however, is still not the majority. Not even close. But just to humor you, how many people do you think are willing to take over the government for legalized marijuana? Now ask yourself how many of these people have guns? How many of these people are trained to use guns? How many people does it take to start a revolution? How many people are okay with murdering other people? How is your revolution going to start? How will you organize your attacks? Who is going to lead you? What is your strategy, are you just going to go out cop killing? Have you every thought through any of these questions seriously?

 

"What is your strategy, are you just going to go out cop killing? Have you every thought through any of these questions seriously?"
Lol i never said anything like this. Good job again. YOu also said you wouldnt murder anyone and i said the same thing. In the orig post it says cops coming into our homes and what not so thats not murder. I never knew killing someone thats trying to kill you was murder. lol

Actually i did explain very well how you do not konw what you are talking about. Dont need to show the huge key parts you can go back and read them yourself as you are the one that left them out, i dont need to read them again. Lol every point i have said has been very valid. if you cannot see that you truly are a moron. Learn to read plz.


Please, no name-calling. Thanks. *RMJL

 

5% of the population of the 13 colonies was all it took to beat the world's most technological naval fleet in the world not too mention beating the english and the french.

5% of the population of the 13 colonies on one continent changed the world forever.

I would die for a respectable,honest police force and respectable,honest poloticians and a truthfull stance on public policy.

 

I never said you that you said you were going to murder cops, but thanks for cherry picking one little thing and going way off topic. They were all hypothetical questions. The point of that whole paragraph was to get you to realize that we are so FAR from a revolution, its not even funny. Guess that, too, went right over your head. Apparently I am not the one who needs their reading comprehension checked.

Calling me a moron over and over doesn't make my points any less true. What points have you made? One. You say that a revolution will happen because enough people will get pissed off enough so that everyone is gonna start overthrowing the government. Yet you can't back that up with anything. Thats all you have said. You are like arguing with a fundamentalist christian who uses circular logic to "prove" i'm a blind-moron-sheep-sissy. You knock me for not using facts, but you use none of your own. You don't even challenge any of the points I have made. You misinterpret everything I write. You seriously must be like 15 years old. If not, I feel bad for you.

I see now you went back and edited your post lol...seriously??

 

Here let me go back and counter another point since you edited your post after I already replied...

That is the dumbest thing i have ever read on this forum. Just because your friends and people you know are lazy doesn't mean we all are. Again you should speak only for yourself.

Look. Here's some basic math for you. Maybe numbers might better help your feeble mind understand.

50 percent want legalization. 350 million people in the U.S. That's 175 million people who are pro legalization. Do you think even 10 percent of these people have ever even held a protest sign for weed? The answer to that is obviously NO.

Lets move on. Lets, hypothetically and generously, suggest that a grand 10 percent weren't "lazy" and actually did go out in protest. Out of those 10 percent, how many are willing to risk their lives for ganja? Not very many. Then there are other factors which drive your numbers down and down and down. Such as the questions I asked earlier. How many have guns? How many are trained? How many are actually ok with taking another American citizens life over this plant?

And then you are left with how many people? Not very fucking many.

 

"Lets move on. Lets, hypothetically and generously, suggest that a grand 10 percent weren't "lazy" and actually did go out in protest. Out of those 10 percent, how many are willing to risk their lives for ganja? Not very many. Then there are other factors which drive your numbers down and down and down. Such as the questions I asked earlier. How many have guns? How many are trained? How many are actually ok with taking another American citizens life over this plant?

And then you are left with how many people? Not very fucking many. "

Sorry i take back what i previously said, this is the dumbest shit ive read on this forum. The other post is now 2nd.

""What is your strategy, are you just going to go out cop killing? "

That right there says going to murder cops. The rest of your post is irreverent as that first sentence is lie.


Others on the forum read what i said and responded with the same ideas and expanded on it to show how you are wrong. If you go back and actually read it all you will also see it is logical. There was never any circles or "circular" logic. Lol i proved all your points wrong again not my fault you cant read and comprehend. All of the things i said about the plant and the planet are true. People die every day for this plant. Cant argue with that. Again learn to read.

"It could very well happen. Cops killing innocent people over cannabis and cannabis laws will eventually piss enough people off that we take back our rights from the police with or without violence."

That was the first thing i said and you want to argue with it? it is happening an dpeople are waking up to whats going on. Lol you cant say it will or will not happen. Just like each of your posts that talk about the % of people who would take up arms. You have no clue how many people will or will not. You cannot base your argument on you or your "family" or your geographic location. Maybe people dont like guns where you live. I know with out a doubt people where i live do! Just because you would let the gov railroad you and your family doesnt mean everyone else will. How do you not see you cannot speak for the rest of the USA and the World. LMAO

Im the 15 year old? Lulz. Moron.

 

Ya...you went back and edited your post after I replied. I guess that's my fault though? lol

The cop question was hypothetical. It DID NOT suggest you were going out to kill cops. Again you ignore what I wrote in my last post where I explained to you it was a HYPOTHETICAL question.

And yet again, you counter a valid point by calling it stupid? That's not a counter, that's called being a BIGOT. I could care less if those are the two dumbest posts you've read. You clearly are not getting the message because you aren't intelligent enough. Sorry you have the IQ of a rock. Not a box of rocks. A rock.