It's been getting under my skin lately how much people are dividing issues into race (i.e. Michael Vick's case has nothing to do with the fact that he's black, a famous athlete, or his wealth... he broke laws and committed disgusting crimes), how minorities have been stating that they're not getting a fair shake but won't discuss their problems publicly and allow themselves to be stereotyped because of their actions. So I pose the question, "Do you think social equality has been achieved" since the Civil Rights Movement. PLEASE, discuss why or why not.
people still categorize people, and discriminate and wealth also, people look down to and up to people with/without money. Money is a currency, so what if your rich or poor WTF
obviously social equality has not been acheived, far from it there's been progress obviously, but there's still too many people with the pre-conceived notions of racism.
Total social equality will never be fully realized. It's human nature to pick on certain people and resort to scapegoats. Sad, but true.
QFT, when I read the OP's post I was trying to figure out how to respond. You put it in the words I was looking for.
d-block305.... what? arefx...i don't believe it has been, others hold different opinions, that's why i ask the roach....agreed, i suppose i mean racial equality rather than social, obviously total social equality will never happen....especially in a capitalist economy
Segregation has just been replaced with another form of racism: Multiculturalism As for the gender issue, I think we could make a lot of headway by weening ourselves off of traditional partnership, but the issue is much more convoluted than that...
Forced multiculturalism; affirmative action, diversification, etc. But then, I think religion plays a big part in this. No doubt there is a fundamental understanding that transcends language and color, if only we could interface on the right terms.
Until race doesn't exist then there will always be descrimination, and even then instead of race people will find another difference to point out. However, think about how much racism has changed in the past 50 years.
No, social equality is nowhere close to what it should be. In fact, I would say that with the ever growing divide between the rich and poor things are going to start getting a lot worse before they get any better. I guess our generation could surprise us and rally together to make some meaningful social changes but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. We're to afraid of the brown skin Arab's, whom even as we speak are holding some sort of top secret meeting to plan our fiery destruction, to worry about each other.
Not just race people- Women typically get paid less than men for doing the same jobs.... "Good Looking" people get paid more than "Ugly" people. All sorts of dicrimination going on. EDIT:: This has to be the first poll ever where 14 people in a row voted "No" and not one voted "yes"
we are so so far away. i dont think there is any chance of it ever happening without: a) a total globalization of the world with everyone under one govt b) the whole world being wiped out and then several survirors repopulating the worlds over again c) for every government to start focusing inwards instead of outwards. obviously a and b are not options.
I'm fairly certain that complete concentrated power in the hands of a single entity would not breed a utopia of social equality. In fact I would wager the opposite to happen.
i dont think it would be utopian by any measure, but i can foresee equality under one government, but that doesnt mean that everyone isnt oppressed. people could all be oppressed and dictated equally, thus having social equality. for literal equality and utopia to happen, well, i jsut dont think it can. there are too many bad people in the world. and yes, i beleive people are born as either good or bad, and its at some point that they forge their path towards either one of those ways of living. some people are just not capable of seeing things in a fair equal sense. although racist and bigoted people are often results of upbringing, it is a hard cycle to break, and while it is easy for someone of moral upbringing to see everyone as equal, it is extremely hard for a bigot to see this, no matter what evidence they are faced with. as negative as it sounds, there will just never be utopia in this world, maybe on some far off planet where millenia of intelligent existance has evolved into a fair and just minded civilization where everyone is valued as equal.
So you believe people are predestined as good or bad? As in, they are what they are without struggle? That doesn't make sense to me as we all have an internal struggle between "good" and "evil". My biggest problem with a single one world government is the loss of any checks and balances. It would only be a matter of time before one man has way to much power. Just look at what has happened in our own system over the last decade or so.
i agree with you whole heartedly. i would rather die than see a total world government. and what i meant to say by being good or bad is, there are people who are born inherently good, but of course have a constant internal struggle of good and bad, but it is the fact that the sum of their good actions way outweigh the sum of the bad. it is the people who are the opposite who i beleive are bad. they may do a good deed, but if you look at most repeating offenders, these people were born bad, live bad lives and die in jail. of course there is chance for reform and the winning of the internal struggle of good vs evil, but winning that battle would require for someone who has been living a sinful evil life to do enough to outweigh what he has done already.
How can there be a struggle if the out come is pre-ordained. There can be the illusion of struggle but that's about it. The more I think about it this idea really bothers me, it seems to trivialize the process in which we grow as people.
