Right, as the title suggests, I'm looking for someone who can count like a calculator. Must be a few of you can do it. Been stuck arguing about the existence of god for about the last 2 weeks now and I've just realised that the answer to proving it all wrong simply lies In one mathematical equation. Asuming adam and eve 's 2 first born were male and female, breeding at an average age of 16, leading to an average of 6 children. How long would it take for the number of people on earth to multiply to 7.5 billion? I know there's obviously the fact that 90% of them would come out disabled due to the incest and of course there's natural death and the frequent mass culling due to disease but even without these numbers I'm still pretty sure it's impossible for that number to reach 7.5b in a few thousand years. Science can always be argued as wrong but maths doesn't lie! If anyone is smart enough to work this out even roughly I'd be eternally great full Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
I'll see if my bf will check it out. He's not a party of the city, but he can read your post. He believes in God though and what you're trying to point out here is that it's not possible for Adam and Eve to have populated the world, isn't it? It might take awhile to get back here because he's asleep and not a night owl like me.
How do you know God didn't make other humans after making Adam and Eve? Just because he didn't write it down somewhere doesn't mean it didn't happen. Why don't you start your math problem with the Ark? Don't we know who was on the Ark? and everyone else should have drowned so it don't matter how many people there were at that point. It's hard thinking about this with a straight face. I think you're trying to figure out a problem similar to how Santa Claus delivers presents to everyone in 24hrs.
You know something mate that's exactly what it is. We know Santa doesn't exist, apart from the lack of presents but because it's mathematically impossible. Christianity believes the earth is only around 5 or 6 thousand years old so if anyone could do the maths on it then we'd have veryfiable proof that it couldn't possibly have happened. I can't just say to people it's unlikely though because although I'd say it sounds like a rediculous claim to be able to produce 7.5 billion people in 5000 years it might actually be doable. And no, there were no others made. Christianity believes the bible to be true so if it's not in the bible then it never fuckin happened. Cant just go around making up your own chapters mate. That's how we got into this mess in the first place. Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Ooh I've just realised my mates boyfriend is a maths teacher. I'll ask him and see if he can be bothered lol Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
If each couple produced 3 children that live by the time they are 25 and if a generation is 25 years then the answer is 3 to the 200th power which is far more than 7.5 billion. Maybe. It's been 50 years since I had a class in math but I think you should make a different argument.
Or the way the tooth fairy gives you 75 cents under the pillow. See I don't think anyone can figure out how the tooth fairy can get everyone $0.75 for only kids who believe in them.
It was 50p when I was growing up. Was always left in the biscuit tin for me. I asumed my parents didn't know that was what I was doing when i got up in the morning and they were still in bed so I thought the tooth fairy was real until I was like 7 or 8 Really wish I was kidding Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
Now I'm not arguing mate, I've already stated that you can't argue with maths. I don't know you though and I don't know what that equation means so could you possibly explain the working for that sum. I know it means 3 x 3 x 3 x 3...to 200 but why does it equate to that. I know it's most likely a head hurting thought but I genuinely would really appreciate it if you could. Thanks EDIT Just had a moment of clarity lol. I'll go check the maths once I've done the gardening. Be back in an hour or so Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
I can't do that, I think there's something in my formula that's off, it's something about taking 2 people to produce 3 kids that's boggling what I laughingly call my mind.
And, are we going to ignore the fact that if they're the first two people in the world to exist that would make us all inbreed. By Christian logic. Ewww....
I understand where you're coming from but there would be no birth defects, being newly made by God they wouldn't have defective genes. But they would have perfect bodies so who could blame siblings for fucking like rabbits especially considering they had no other place to spill their seed but inside their sisters' bellies. Or mom's.
And there we have it. All the world's religions perfectly summed up in the last 5 and a half lines Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
The Bible tells us stuff but it don't necessarily tell us everything. God made Eve out of one of Adam's ribs (cloning by aliens?) so I think he could make Cain a wife. It's a simple procedure for an omnificent being.
my bf, who has PHD in Physics says based on your information the number is 2 to the 40,000th power not taking the flood into consideration. If you take the flood into the consideration is something like 3 to the 30,000th power or 3 to the 20,000 power. You can take off roughly 30% for famine, war, disease,etc. If you did these calculations, you would come out with a number greater than 7.5 billion. He said the more you know about Physics, the more you believe in God.
Not the Biblical God, though. The number has to be reached in 5,000 years. Why would there be a 30,000th power? If each generation was only 15 years there would be 333 generations. The power would increase by one for each generation, eh? It's still more than 7.5 billion though. Maybe your bf is counting generations from the actual beginning of humanity about 200,000 or so years ago instead of the biblical beginning 5,000 years ago.
According to the bible they (A&E ...swear to fuck ive nust realised that ) had cain, able, and another I can't remember. Sure they were all boys names though. A later version of the bible contained an extra book/story/chapter whatever the fuck it's called, that says that adam and eve had 3 children, "followed by many others" Book of genesis, which I'm sure is the one that also goes on about ezekiels wheel at some point. That's the one that makes all the alien nuts go mental. Giants, nephillem etc. Personally I think the bibles true but the alien nuts have got it right. Just replace every word that represents "god" with the term "alien master overlord. Every one of the famous dirty dozen from the last supper with "commanders/chiefs and it all makes sense. The biblical tales tell of lots of things that if we take to be 100% fact can easily be explained by asuming god was an alien. The weird weather phenomena, plagues, parting waters etc can all be explained by perfectly naturally occurrences. And I've gotta go now.... tbc Sent from my SM-G850F using Grasscity Forum mobile app
He is coming up with his numbers by going back 10,000 or 5,000 years with there being 4 generations each 100 years.