Do these look like any sativa you have ever seen? (pics)

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by SlowBurn, Feb 22, 2010.

  1. #1 SlowBurn, Feb 22, 2010
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    These are supposed to be Raspberry Cough.....and unless they are wrong this strain is suppose to be a sativa.

    Here are a couple of shots to give some perspective as to height to width ratio...do these look like any sativa you have ever seen? I have been topping every site that pops up as I am going to ScrOG them.....but I am still starting to wonder if I received the wrong beans.....:confused:

    Genetics are good though (whatever they are)I dropped the seeds in dirt 21 days ago.

    Check out my grow journal in my signature for more pics...

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  2. Looks more than vaguely indica to me.
     
  3. ive never grown with anything but CFLs, dont think that matters but your plants just look as if they are vegging. Wait till you put them into 12/12, and if they are sativa they will shoot up like a montser
     
  4. No way is that a Sativa. You don't need to flower to see that this is an indica or hybrid. Sativa strains are pretty obvious.
     
  5. Regardless of heights the leaves are fat which is an indication of Indica genetics. Sativa leaves will be longer and thinner like fingers.

    Maybe Nirvana just mixed up your order...

    I'd email them and at least ask WTF?
     
  6. I just sent them an email and offered to send them the pics above.

    I'm pretty pissed off about this as I FUCKING HATE indica strains. Nothing worse than trying to get shit done during the day and you feel like you just drank a bottle of Nyquil.

    Has anyone else ever grown Raspberry Cough from Nirvana? If so, do you have any pics?
     
  7. Here is a pic from their website... mine doesn't even come close to resembling this pic...

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  8. That sucks. I love Indica.

    Here is a photo of some Sativa leaves:

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    VS. some Indica

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    The difference is observable in young plants too:

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    Neville's Haze and Dutch Passion Blueberry
     
  9. Toledo...thanks...

    I knew within the first few days I was dealing with indicas. I am pretty pissed off. What in the hell is the point of paying big money and risking having primo beans mailed from the UK if you can't trust what you're getting? Know what I mean? Really disappointing...
     


  10. Uhhh sorry man, but most of the time the weed won't look like that picture. Plus you still have a while before you can start seeing the similarities and differences, your plants are young. It looks more indica but maybe it has some traits that were carried over, I'm pretty sure thats a cross strain so it's possible. And you didn't really pay big money for those seeds either. what like $50...big deal.
     
  11. #11 SlowBurn, Feb 22, 2010
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    I know what I am talking about...these are AT LEAST indica dom strains. And I think it was around $80 bucks at the time (might have dropped since then).... but since getting what you pay for isn't a big deal to you, how about you send me a refund? Personally, I believe in getting what I pay for...

    And when I said "big money" I meant paying a "premium" for better genetics and FEM'd seeds. Buying from a seed bank IS more expensive than growing bag seed, right?


    But we'll see what their response is. If they make good on it, I'll give em' props.
     
  12. Umm, it's not a pure sativa so... I don't understand why all the fuss. Nirvana states quite clearly that Rasberry Cough is Cambodian Landrace X Ice. Ice is a hybrid strain, sativa/indica, and Raspberry Cough is a F1 Cross so it's absolutely going to have indica genetics.

    Anyways I've grown very sativa finishing plants that started very indica.

    Early shot: This is how the plant started... I think you'll agree this looks very indica?

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    Flower Shot: and here's how it finished... much more sativa looking

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  13. #13 soapman, Feb 22, 2010
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    I know I agreed with you, I think they look indica as well. I'm just saying it probably happened because it's a cross strain and it had indica traits that were carried over during the creation. I mean maybe the odds were just really slim and hey ya know what you just happen to be the guy. Who knows what happened. It's really not a big deal, you'll still come out with a nice harvest with some dank nuggets to smoke, so I don't know what the big deal is. I understand you want what you paid for but you can't control the genetics of the plant, that would be like being god.

    Maybe you just need to start paying bigger money eh? eh? get yourself some REAL sativas;)
     
  14. Well...if I am wrong or have made a mistake I will of course freely admit it. Most of the "fuss" is just the fact I HATE a couch-locked feeling and I started growing because 1.) I was tired of giving my money to people who had zero strain knowledge and 2.) it seemed all I could find were indicas on my pick-ups.

    But what would be your thought on the genetics behind this strain if you read this?

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  15. #15 soapman, Feb 22, 2010
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    I already read that and it says F1 Cross. and so what if you don't want a couch lock stone, than just harvest a little bit ealier I think it is, if I got earlier or later mixed up, somebody chime in, but I think it's earlier with more clear trichs. And Yeah it is hard to track down sativas they take so god damn long to grow sometimes.
     
  16. #16 SlowBurn, Feb 22, 2010
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    Do you have any reccomendations that would work well in a small closet ScrOG? I do have some Urban Poison but they're not FEM'd and I didn't want to waste valuable bud space if I ended up with males I had to yank em'.

    Would harvesting them with say 10% amber/90% cloudy trichs help with giving me a more "uppy" smoke if it is an indica dom strain?

    Like I said...I'm not pissed at Nirvana really....just sick of what seems like an inability to get away from dopey indicas...
     
  17. #18 SlowBurn, Feb 22, 2010
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    Great, thanks (hope I didn't come off too harsh...I just smoked so I'm back to normal..ha)

    Anyway...I'm gonna order some FEM'd SSH beans real soon. I have been wanting to try it. I have had their Super Lemon Haze and it was a great weekend smoke...a nice indica/sativa combo...happy/chatty yet chilled/relaxed.

    I really should have learned more before I bought a shitload of seeds. I would have done it different...now I am stuck with beans I'm not sure I will ever use. Not because they are mostly indicas but because alot of them are of unknown sex. I just don't have any extra space available to plant possible males or set up a cloning station. My buddy told me to go down to the local business area and randomly plant them...haha...

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  18. Don't sweat it man. I hear ya on the studying up on genetics and stuff I didn't do that either, than I just started learning about it, much in the same way you are now. I wouldn't worry about the seeds you have now, I got a few I don't know if I'll ever use again but it's all good I got em if I need em. I think I'm gonna try an outdoor grow this season.
     
  19. #20 Sam87, Feb 22, 2010
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    It's a F1 hybrid. You're going to see phenotype variation, and some of those are going to be more Indica dominant. A hybrid with a long flowering Sativa parent (which the cambodians definitely are) is usually even more variable in looks, as it can to twice as long to breed the strain to where you could call it IBL.

    So, don't be surprised that you got an Ice dominant pheno (50/50 I/S). Don't freak out either. Unless Nirvana has gone way downhill, they wouldn't release a strain with huge differences in smoke quality, unless they say "interesting pheno mix" (or similar) somewhere in the description. The growth patterns on the Sativa heavy strains may be all over the place, and you might get some colour and smell variation, but the smoke and average flowering time should be similar.

    Be happy man. You probably got a sativa that should be easily manageable, with nice dense internodes. It's possible that they sent you the wrong seeds, as it does happen. But you don't serve yourself in any way by jumping to conclusions while they are still in early veg.
     

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