Do Police Have Too Much Power?

Discussion in 'High Ideas' started by tokeallday, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. #1 tokeallday, Jul 18, 2014
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    80 years ago the way police forces and laws in general behaved is so much different to now. nowadays if there is a shooting somewhere, it gets broadcasted to millions of people watching on their pixel screens, masses of police officers become aware and everyone goes mad. there are so many more in police force than there were, if anything too many, and all humans give in to the control they have over the public and generally act beta over them.
     
    imagine suddenly being re-born to a blank state with knowledge of all basic functions, except you cant remember anything or one. you start building relationships with people around you and generally get to know 'society'. you one night go home to one of your new friends and he gives you drugs. you do them and enjoy them. then another day a week on you're walking home and see a man struggling with 2 other men, you wonder what its about and see these men in blue uniforms with 'LAPD' on the back, trying to get what look like the same drugs you yourself took the other night. you go over and say 'hey! that's not right, why are you taking his drugs?!' one of the men pulls some sort of spray out as you get closer and sprays your face! 
    you wonder what the hell these people are doing, and would actually think that THEY, are the bad people!
     
    that is exactly how it would look if the scenario correlated to a real life situation. a rather alien-like perspective i know but it gives you a different view at how things are, not the type of brainwashing shit the media feeds you every single day.
     
    so is it fair we allow these people to overpower us like this? locking people up because of ingesting something they choose and take responsibility for? restricting peoples freedom?
     
    just some highdeas
    what do you think - has 'law', the government and the police in general become too controlling and overpowering?

     
  2. Not the polices fault its the governments,
     
  3. #3 -Martyr, Jul 18, 2014
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    If they didn't have too much power, you wouldn't be a skeptic. And you wouldn't be wrong to be skeptical either.
     
  4. we don't "allow" this... they simply impose it, and there's nothing we can do about it without getting murdered or thrown in a cage for a very long time.
     
    IMO, we can't really justifiably say "it's not the cops' fault," because they have had plenty of chances to fully consider just what is entailed by the job description, and yet, either they "can't understand" why part of their job is WRONG, or they "simply disregard" that it is WRONG.
     
    They know what they're doing is sometimes wrong, or they're mentally incompetent. Either way, mentally incompetent or malicious people should not be given authorization to use deadly force, under ANY circumstances, other than justified self-defense. But that's where it gets muddy. And i don't feel like articulating the whole breakdown again right this moment.
     
    IMO, it's easy to see that they either know they're accepting a paycheck to violate people unjustly, or they're not competent enough to be qualified for the job.
     
    You can't "only" blame the cops... but they are just as much at fault as the people who made and maintain the illegitimate laws against cannabis, and all sorts of other fundamentally unacceptable laws.
     
  5. the police are the ones that are doing the dirty work though
     
  6. The government says marijuana is a schedule 1 substance and has zero medicinal benefits.  If the government reschedules marijuana or even allows it to be used for recreational purposes, the police cant do anything.  The police don't make the laws, they just enforce them.  I do agree with you in some sense, like that cop who pulled over a lady and raped her and threatened her on the side of the road, at least he got caught in the end but the damage was done.(one example of one million)
     
    Honestly this is a tough topic and I look forward to reading other blades posts.
     
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    Of course, the problem begins at the top, but no one is forcing those enforcers to continue doing a job that requires them to impose inhumane treatment upon people who do not deserve it.
     
    IMO, the Spiderman Principle applies: "with great power comes great responsibility."
     
    If you are given authorization to use deadly force and detain people who are then given extreme and excessive prison sentences, plus fines... then you are also responsible for making sure that what you're being paid to enforce, is not tyrannical or unjust.
     
    If you shirk that responsibility, and insist on continuing to enforce injustice upon the undeserving, then it is also "your fault," that you choose to enforce those unjust laws.
     
    If the law is wrong, enforcing it is also wrong. If an enforcer either refuses to investigate the nature of his assignments, or resorts to "the law is the law is the law" as some sort of justification mantra... IMO, he is not qualified or worthy of being granted authorization to use force, against anyone.
     
    So yes. The cops are making a choice to do something that is knowably wrong... and whether it's because they "don't understand," or because they "don't care," their actions are still their own, and they are still responsible for whatever they do; law or not.
     
    Any reasonable human being with a conscience knows that no one should have harm imposed upon them just for growing and/or possessing and/or using cannabis. Growing or using cannabis cannot be legitimately construed as "dangerous" to anyone, in and of itself. If a person performs destructive actions toward another person or that person's property, while under the influence of cannabis, it is the destructive actions that must be punished, not the cannabis, and not everyone else who is fully capable of maintaining self-control while under the influence.
     

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