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Cutting out The Fluoride

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by AlexanderTheGr8, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. I first read about the fluoride controversy in high school and recently decided to go ahead and see what I can do about ridding it from my overall intake. (link is a great resource btw)

    I'm fairly certain I can manage this project pretty well on my own but great things and good ideas come from collaboration so here this is for you all to look at, add to, and criticize.

    In the following post I'm going to explain where I'm at currently and I'll be sure to keep adding to it as time goes by. Hopefully by the time I'm done, this will inspire others to challenge themselves to do the same thing.

    Wish me luck, thanks for reading.
  2. #2 AlexanderTheGr8, Mar 24, 2011
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    So my water - and most likely yours too - is fluoridated. How to we go about getting clean water then? Filters are expensive and must be replaced often. This makes me think, well hey, I'll get some non-fluoridated bottled water to get me through in the mean time but then again, do some research and you'll find bottled water can be just as bad if not worse for your health. Any ideas?

    Obviously cutting water out of your diet is unhealthy to say the least, but I do know that most if not all milk contains no fluoride meaning: it's a safe bet as a second option - plus, ingesting milk is like polar opposite of ingesting fluoride in that it helps with bone health instead corroding it!​

  3. Good luck man, that's pretty difficult to accomplish
  4. if your really intent on getting rid of it i spose you could boil all your water before consumption but who knows if that really gets rid of it or invest in a water catchment tank or buy from a respectable bottled water company and get it tested by an independant if your that worried about it, we have enough fluoride in our toothpastes as it is, let alone the high levels our governments slowly poison us with in the water supply.
  5. Flouride is going to be amongst the least of our worries TBH. We're putting millions of doses of hormones, anti-depressants and more into our water every year, and have been for tens of years. No water company takes them out, and many don't look for them because there's no point, they're in water, that's it. They're now accumulating by the year at a greater speed as the population and the use of medication increases.


  6. Where can i find this information? does this attribute to ALL bottled water companies?
  7. just an idea... but you could set up some kind of water vapor system, collecting the percipitation as clean water. pretty sure they put it in some foods too though.
  8. #8 MelT, Mar 24, 2011
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    Sorry, I'm not talking about bottled water, I don't know what's in that. I'm talking about water that comes to towns via reservoirs and the like, through taps.


    One different source of problems to the one I'm talking about:

    Drinking Water Contaminated With Potent Estrogen, According To Study

    Plastic packaging is not without its downsides, and if you thought mineral water was 'clean', it may be time to think again. According to Martin Wagner and Jörg Oehlmann from the Department of Aquatic Ecotoxicology at the Goethe University in Frankfurt am Main, Germany, plastic mineral water bottles contaminate drinking water with estrogenic chemicals. In an analysis1 of commercially available mineral waters, the researchers found evidence of estrogenic compounds leaching out of the plastic packaging into the water. What's more, these chemicals are potent in vivo and result in an increased development of embryos in the New Zealand mud snail. These findings, which show for the first time that substances leaching out of plastic food packaging materials act as functional estrogens, are published in Springer's journal Environmental Science and Pollution Research.

    Wagner and Oehlmann looked at whether the migration of substances from packaging material into foodstuffs contributes to human exposure to man-made hormones. They analyzed 20 brands of mineral water available in Germany - nine bottled in glass, nine bottled in plastic and two bottled in composite packaging (paperboard boxes coated with an inner plastic film). The researchers took water samples from the bottles and tested them for the presence of estrogenic chemicals in vitro. They then carried out a reproduction test with the New Zealand mud snail to determine the source and potency of the xenoestrogens.

    They detected estrogen contamination in 60% of the samples (12 of the 20 brands) analyzed. Mineral waters in glass bottles were less estrogenic than waters in plastic bottles. Specifically, 33% of all mineral waters bottled in glass compared with 78% of waters in plastic bottles and both waters bottled in composite packaging showed significant hormonal activity.

    By breeding the New Zealand mud snail in both plastic and glass water bottles, the researchers found more than double the number of embryos in plastic bottles compared with glass bottles. Taken together, these results demonstrate widespread contamination of mineral water with potent man-made estrogens that partly originate from compounds leaching out of the plastic packaging material.

    The authors conclude: "We must have identified just the tip of the iceberg in that plastic packaging may be a major source of xenohormone* contamination of many other edibles. Our findings provide an insight into the potential exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals due to unexpected sources of contamination."


    *man-made substance that has a hormone-like effect


    1. Wagner M & Oehlmann J (2009). Endocrine disruptors in bottled mineral water: total estrogenic burden and migration from plastic bottles. Environ Sci Pollut Res; [10.1007/s11356-009-0107-7]

    Renate Bayaz
  9. Estrogen Levels in Water Alarm Scientists

    \t\t\t\t\tWater Treatment Systems Unable to Remove Estrogen from Drinking Water

    Alton Parrish, Yahoo! Contributor NetworkEstrogen and estrogen-like compounds enter water rivers, steams and reservoirs from many sources and remain there even after passing through water treatment plants. About 80% of 139 U.S. rivers are contaminated with[​IMG]trace estrogen compounds. Naturally occurring estrogen compounds come from livestock urine and feces, and from human excretions which also contain contraceptives and hormone replacement medications. Other estrogen-like compounds are found in products such insecticides and plastic bottles, and they all find their way into the water supply including the drinking water supply.

    The most damning evidence of the impact of estrogens in water was found in male fish swimming downstream from estrogen-containing water sources. In 2004, in Colorado, male fish were found to have both male and female sexual characteristics, such as partially developed ova, or eggs, in their testes. Fish damaged in this way have been found in the United States, Great Britain, Italy and other countries. This sex-related damage to fish may not be significant but researchers suggest that it's a warning of potential dangers to humans. Estrogens in drinking water may affect male fertility by interfering with sperm production. Links between environmental estrogenic compounds and several kinds of cancer, especially breast and testicular cancer, also have been suggested.

    A 2007 study from the University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute's Center for Environmental Oncology found that fish caught in Pittsburgh's rivers contain substances that mimic the actions the female hormone. Fish concentrate chemicals from the surrounding water in their bodies. The study results suggest that "feminizing chemicals" may be making their way into the Pennsylvania waterways.

    This is a longer article concerning more of the chemicals in our water supplies:


  10. I'll look into that. You are correct, fluoride is in many foods as well. It's used as a preservative.

    I'm pretty sure water isn't the only drink it can be found in either. I've heard of it being present in juice boxes and soda. I'll do some more research.
  11. Defending yourself completely from flouride may be unrealistic especially if its in your drinking water, I believe you can get filters that remove it. Also if your worried you could supplement yourself with iodine to help prevent flouride buildup in your system.
  12. I just watched a film with the name "The Beautiful Truth" (2008)

    Talk about relevance. Anybody seen this one?

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