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Coco or hydroponic What's your favorite?

Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Indoors' started by Popcorn, Jan 13, 2019.

  1. hey gc still working on my first grow in soil but the reason I posted this thread was my plan is to grow soil for my first grow(in progress) then coco for a grow then hydro. So if you don't mind I would love to hear some people's opinion on what they like better and why. I am thinking easy cheap bubble buckets although I know there are other hydro setups just have not looked into them, if anyone has a pic of there setup would be cool too. So if anyone wants to talk about growing stuff I am here and waiting. Lol
     
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  2. Coco is hydro
     
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  3. I’m loving coco it’s much faster than soil . It’s also great for clones .
     
  4. I use coco love it you can't over water that's the main reason, plants grow faster, easy to fix any issues, great airation, sustainable......you can reuse as long as you take care of it...I like it alot for indoor growing...I've grown outdoor with it...its great in a pot but dry's alot quicker once the plant gets sizable forsure so you'll water twice or more a day if it's hot out forsure....

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  5. I've grown in pure coco, coco/perlite and pure perlite. I see very little if any benefit to adding coco to perlite. A fabric bag filled with perlite is the start to simple hydro. Just remember, every little yellow or brown spot on any leaf is all your fault and could have been avoided if you did it right. Can't blame it on a bag of bad perlite.
     
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  6. I use coco and hydro balls at 70/30 mix. Love it.


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  7. Soil lol

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  8. My worms love coco. But I haven't figured out a way to get their perfect fertilizer back into my plants in my current all perlite manual fabric bag hydro system. I do believe there is a future in organic hydro. It will take me many years of growing to disprove all the lies I have been growing by all my life. Something don't add up. It may work, but it doesn't work for the reasons they say it works. But getting back to perlite. The head scratcher is when you take a seed and plant it in a bag of perlite and do nothing but spray every 12 to 24 hours with Foliage Pro and Protek T and in 30 days you have this lush, green vibrant plant that looks like Mother Nature herself grew it in the Garden of Eden. So for the time being the worms and I are enjoying retirement.
     
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  9. I've grown in coco with great results but I prefer hempy buckets with perlite - nothing simpler.
     
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  10. There are studies comparing adding peat vs adding vermiculite to perlite and the peat wins out for early root development. The pure perlite really shines when there is a problem to diagnose. Can be thoroughly flushed and quickly dried, and you know every single thing that went in. Coco is the greatest medium I have ever grown in, but I got tired of the Calcium/Potassium head games and I'm not flushing it now and starting all over. I don't reuse medium or bags anymore so perlite wins the cost war.
     
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  11. Ok then to rephrase myself what type of hydroponic system do you like the best and a little exlaination of why.
     
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  12. I like hempys the best. All it requires is perlite and a bucket with a hole 2" from the bottom, so it's cheap. It produces fast growth like coco but it doesn't require the multiple daily feedings that coco does - one gallon every other day is it. The pH doesn't go out of whack, you don't have to be concerned with the cation exchange capacity like coco, no salt build up, can't over water, and lastly no bugs.

    Comparing it to DWC and RDWC - hempys produce the same fast growth but require no pumps, airstones, or chillers. No ppm meter required and the pH drops work great so no pH meter needed either.
     
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  13. I think I may need to try a hempy grow. I love organic soil because of water only and I can only get to my grow site every couple of days. With my grow partner, we may be able to do a hempy run. With our limited, time doing coco and feeding daily, wouldn't work. But may be able to swing this.
     
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  14. I like the simple DWC. It's easy to do a few plants at a time in a small space
     
  15. #15 Popcorn, Jan 14, 2019
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    Does anyone have a small explanation on the cob thing I have seen a few threads and looked through but no explaination of how it works? Don't plan to go with this method just curious. Cancel that I think it is lighting. Haha
     
  16. I'm growing in 5 gallon buckets of 75/25 coco/perlite mix. They were slow to start but eventually took off. They're now on Day 32 of flower, about 35-40 days to go.

    Coco has treated me well, for many of the reasons already stated. It's a passive hydroponic. You really can't over water it. It's easy to balance your nutes and with fabric pots it seems to really shine. Just make sure you treat it like a hydroponic and start feeding lightly as soon as you plant your seedlings.
     

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  17. Good plan to graduate to hydro prob learn a lot on ur way up
     
  18. #18 Soil2Coco, Jan 14, 2019
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    Here is a new cob led I got from Galisteo Grow Lights. Each COB is an array of Led chips producing concentrated light. The lenses focus the rays for penetration. I will be testing and reviewing this light over half my 2x4.

    4 COB LED square light

    50% power
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    Full Power (200 watts)
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    And I’m another Hempy referral. But I’m using 2 gallon fabric pots with 2” saucers underneath as the reservoir for smaller autos. For the larger autos, I have 3.5 gallon mop buckets with a 1/4” hole drilled 2” up from the in side to create the reservoir. All pots filled with 3 parts coarse Perlite and one part vermiculite (aids in water retention)

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  19. I like the hempy idea but to me it only "wins the cost war" if you do reuse the perlite. I used to get a huge bag of perlite from my source for $22. 5 years later it has almost doubled in price. I can get 4 cu. ft. of BBS Promix for $13.97. That price has been consistant for that same time. I don't have a great way, especially in the winter, to clean up and reuse perlite otherwise it would be more inviting. My Promix/Perlite 60/40 conbination seems to offer much of what the hempy does...but sure I have had a couple grows where I had to work through some veg/PH issues but it was simple and come flawa-tme they have always been standing pretty. Come flower the watering is about the same as I am adding 1.5 gallons to a 7 gl pot every other day without any harm going to the third day. The everyday watering in coco always was a huge turn off. In any case I think I will do one hempy as a test next grow...I just have to choose the strain as I will be growing 4 different ones, with 2 for the first time....But for now my choice in hydro is still cheap Peat Promix/Perlite.
     
  20. If you don't mind me asking what is your hempy ratio?
     

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