Coco kiss scrog, modeled after micks grow

800 ppm is a normal dose to buffer coco bro. Granted, I probably could have use a lower dose using canna bricks but being I suffered a calmag deficiency right outta the gate as seedlings with horning leaves and odd deformities , I used a heavy dose. A dose you would normally use for unbuffered coco . Mental? Nah bro ... just cautious . I also find it totally beneficial using it daily In my mix using 160 ppm tap water .
I believe I read you use tap water too. So you may not use 800 ppm of calmag your whole grow. I use 30 ppm of cal mag every watering. Totally improved my grow . Every ones water is different bro but to say buffering coco with 800 ppm is excessive is complete untrue from the info that I gathered . Give coco for cannabis a read. I pretty much followed there way of doing it. hear.. ...I’ll hook ya up with a link

Cannabis Grow Guide - Coco For Cannabis - Science and Practice

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Sup bro, tent looks awesome and that chiller slays! My rez been running warm as well.. 74-75. Haven’t pulled the trigger on a chiller yet as I really only need it 3months outta the year but maybe one with a heating option as well so all my bases are covered eventually. I’m just using hydrogaurd right now and seem to be working as I have zero root issues. Been working 6 10 hr days and my grow got a bit outta hand in the training department so my canopy is a bit irregular but should get a respectable pull if all gos smooth. This whole run has been a test run getting everything dialed in and it’s been under the worst possible conditions. Is been in the 90s the last 2 weeks and no lower than 82 since mid June. Managed to keep the temps at a high of 82and briefly 84 for a spell . Humidity has been screaming in the 80% range but still manage to keep it between 55-65 with the dehumidifier going. That why my temps hit 84 by running that. I decided to try defoliation technique. Trimmed them up before the flip and one more time this weekend going into the 3rd week ( day 17)
Other than those issues things have been great. I have 5 timed fertigations a day 20 sec intervals. Plants get about 3 gal a day now in flower . Ppm of 750. Zero calmag deficiency’s after pre buffering the canna brick. Still giving them 30 ppm of calmag in the soup . I plan on slaying it in my fall run. Taking a few months of and will have plenty of time to tend to my girls. New light coming soon. Went with growers choice roi e720 with master controller she’s a beast. Also going to build my own outta Cree chips and cob lights . Gonna pull over 1000 watts from the wall with unmatch penetration. Love this diy stuff lol. I’m all in I’ll leave ya with a few pics and will keep ya updated. Keep safe ~ vape











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Sup bro, chugging along over here. The heat has been insane , humidity even worse. Dehumidifier having trouble keeping up but aside from all the environment obstacles, I have been able to keep things together for the most part. I have definitely learned a lot during this run about controlling ec/ppm . Had issues with ec rising in the pots . Plants were drinking a ton of water due to the heat and leaving behind a ton of salts between feedings. With work being so demanding I definitely wasn’t monitoring my runoff as much as I should have been like when I was hand watering. Ppm was 750 going in with ph of 5,8 , when I started to have more time to put into my grow I found the first run of sample was like 1250 with a pH of 5.7… Yikes, no wonder why I was experiencing some tip burn and with the pH dropping it was causing a K deficiency . I was having to run 5 gal threw to lower the ppm with in acceptable range ( at first it was within +250 ppm of the 750 I was putting in... still not where I would like). I dropped the ppm to 650 over the course of a few days and now I am running threw a whole lot less of ferts to keep my ppm in the root zone and ph where I want it . Plants clearly was telling me what’s up but science help me understand why. You could actually see the start of the issue in the last post and pic I sent. Soon as I started being vigilant about checking my runoff and keeping the PPM in my root zone within +100 ppm coming out, everything corrected itself. Ph stabilized at 5.8 or what ever I set it at ( sometimes 6) and plants responded and ya could clearly tell they were digging me giving them more care and time. I’m really glad I had this brutal summer. It really help me understand how to control the EC in the root zone and have a deal with trying times within the environment. Environment is definitely the number one thing next to the quality of light you have.That’s the last thing I need to take care of, getting ready to water the growers choice ROI E 720 with master controller. My blurple light is really holding me back from reaching yields I know I can get to with a better light.anyway it’s like day 23 since flip , my plants were hurting a bit and are just coming out of it now . I don’t think growth has slowed except when I defoliated but I my light suck for sure . My nugs are dank but not happy with yield compared to the web boards and led bars. Putting all my time in on the fall run starting after labor day when this grow will be wrapped up and I’ll have my new lamp . Anyway just thought I would share a bit of what’s been going on , hope all is well and I’ll leave ya with a few pics ~ vape














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Sup bro, lol a KW may have roasted them as hot as it’s been hear this summer , 97 today!! I have had temps hit 89 in the grow room several times . Been super tuff keeping heat and humidity in check but they look pretty good considering they have been in less than ideal conditions under a subpar ,over priced, out dated light.

I did find a grow shop about an hour and a half ride from me that has the growers choice roi 720 8 bar led I have been eyeballing . They also have the HLG 650 R in stock along with all the good name brands if I wanted to go a different route , but I’m leaning towards the growers choice with master controller. I may take the ride and grab that baby next weekend . I Started getting some components for the light I’m going to build but that’s a work in progress and I’m not In To much of a hurry with that.

It seams like almost every coco related thread I have read, ppl always have calmag issue right outta the gate regardless of having properly buffered coco , so you having issues don’t surprise me one bit. From now on I’m foliar feeding as soon as the first set of true leaves show.

400 to 450 ppm is just about right . For week 2 . Going into week 3 I increase to 600 over the course of the week end I up it to 750ish through out the rest of the veg period.After the 12/12 flip, I drop the ppm from 750 to 600ish during the first week of the transition period . In the 1st week of early bloom ( I don’t count transition period), I continue to drop the ppm to 500 ish through the week and I start adding my bloom boosters . If she’s looking good going into week 3, I’ll bump her up to 550 -600 the rest of the way ..kinda found that out the hard way as I burnt some tips when I slacked off on monitoring my runoff when I got pounded with OT at work . There drinking a lot more water leaving behind excess salts. That’s how I burn some tips .
I just been using the maxi bloom as far as base nutes all the way through and it’s been great . Love the low N in it yet still just enough to keep them thriving.

I’m Still dialing in the watering thing , used a lot of water this time around trying to keep things ideal in the root zone . Next run I’ll be using far less water now having a better understanding of running this automated system. I Definitely found you want to be close to the same ppm that you have going in as you have coming out or within 50 ppm or so. I don’t worry about the ph coming out as much although it’s at 5.7 regularly.. I only worry about the ph going in and I play with that.
Never heard of the southern ag,....I’m going to have to grab some of that to have on hand. I ordered some Gnatrol to have on hand as well. Found a few adult fungus gnats during the grow ,but during veg, I used this plug in product called zevo.. I found several adults in it but for the most part I’m bug free . I guess it worked

I only mix enough nutes for 2 days in a separate tote to keep my res clean , and to prevent bad bacteria from building up so I stopped using the hydrogaurd and went back to the super moist. I pour 5gal in a 5 gal bucket , add the super moist , adjust ph and then feed. I rinse out my 5gal bucket and pump and do the same thing for the next feeding . A res without a chiller can have higher temps than normal because bacteria don’t have time to grow in that short of time. I don’t Mx the super most in my holding tote because I noticed it leaves a gunk behind after a few hrs with the circulation pump.
Still chugging along , 32 days from 12/12 switch . I don’t count the transition period as flowering time.. I start counting once I see pistoles and the first signs of budding. So in my world this is the end of week 4 . Talk to ya soon ~ vape












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Sup bro, yeah, the super moist leaves a film in my res after a few days. I don’t think it effects anything but nun the less.. its there. It could have to do with me just using a circulation pump just to keep the water moving but most likely it’s because of the temp of my rez fluctuating . Totally ghetto at the moment....no chiller....throwing in frozen h20 bottles , water fluctuates through the day and I bring it down before feedings. I only mix a days worth at a time so I don’t have issues this late in flower and seems to be the way to go to the end.
I rinse with 3% hydrogen peroxide then I use anti-bacteria dish soap to wash it out and rinse real well. I don’t think the h2o2 it’s necessary but it certainly don’t hurt and I will use it to flush the system out after each run. I never saw the h2o2 foam up like it does on a infected cut so I would say it’s clean of bacteria.

The maxi bloom is the way to go with out having to adjust ratios of a 2 or 3 part fert line . It’s More for when you wanna get real advanced but there really is no reason to if your getting the results you want using one part plus your additives and bloom boosters . Dyna grow is another product that I had great success with and I may go back to it and I’ll tell ya why..I’m not exactly sure what the culprit is but I am definitely noticing some of my spray holes in my halos are getting clogged causing uneven distribution . I think it’s from the little remains of undissolved maxi clogging them up. Just something to keep an eye on as ya go.i been hand watering a liter threw each pot to make sure there’s no dry pockets and excess salt build up.

It’s been way to hot, and a lot of work trying to maintain a tolerable environment. 2 dehumidifiers going one inside my room and one out..barely keeping up.. one 8000 btu air conditioner plus the inline and circulation fans .my meter is spinning off the side of my house lol temps are 82 up to 87 during lights on but it never stays at 87 long and it’s only on the hottest of days. Still keeping a vigilant eye out for Hermies. ...Bad genetics and high temps are probably the #1 cause of nanners .

Not to sure about your lamp but you have dimming capability’s so your definitely golden. I think your on the right path tho.. you don’t need a lot of light to veg. I use a 6 bulb cfl lamp . I can have 2 ,4 or all 6 on at once. I keep 2 bulbs on , 6” above while I’m germinating so once they pop they will have light and not stretch until I want them to. As they become seedlings I put on 4 bulbs 6-8” above and after it’s in full veg stage I turn them all on and raise the light to 12” each bulb is 54 watts so full power is 324watts. Keep in mind cfl run hotter, you can prob keep your led board lower with the same wattage.
Being you only have one lamp I wouldn’t go any higher than half your over all wattage . This way when your in flower you can blast them with 100% Power in weeks 5-8 (or however long it takes ) and really swell them colas up ,

I also recommend lollipoping and defoliating a bit . Not going super crazy with the defoliating but if your seeing shadows under your plants , in my most humble opinion... it’s to much leaf. Defoliating will increase the air flow through the canopy , help increase light penetration , prevents powdery mildew and most of all, increases yield. Its a huge debate but if you plants are healthy.. go for it . I don’t defoliated during veg ... just the last week before flipping to 12/12 and at the third week of flower. I then just re move or tuck real big fan leafs. And any other areas that may get to thick . I love every single one of my leafs...but from now on if their in the way or blocking bud sites... I’m cuttin’em lol to big a difference in over all development between the ones I defoliated and the ones I didn’t. Keep reading your plants and think about investing in a light meter as well. Here’s what I have . I know the light I have now so I’m not using it really but when I get my new one thats when it will pay off.




The key lime kush is super frosty and smells unbelievably delicious! The trichrome production is insane. I just wish I defoliated those instead because the blue cheese is smoking them in over all bud development. I don’t think they care for the high temps nether. I can’t wait to run them in the fall when my environment will be easier to manage. Here’s a couple of pics . Day 37 from 12/12 switch 5th flowering week.
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Here’s that meter where that link didn’t go threw

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Lol I dunno ... it’s not letting me post pics. It’s called dr meter. On amazon for like 35 bucks




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Sup bro, they don’t look to far behind . How many time did you top’em and did you fim at all? That would increase the # of bud sites.

My t-5 florescent fixture has 6 tubes . Each tube is 54 watts giving it 324 watts . I keep my lamp at 10-12” anything less plants show stress. That’s with a plant in full veg . Cfl run hotter than LEDs .I have the ability to have 2-4 or all 6 on at a time so I can get closer with seedlings using 2 or 4 . Point I’m trying to make is I think you maybe being A bit on the conservative side becoming familiar with your light. You may want to bump it up a bit. What lamp you running hlg 650r v2? If so there’s a good vid talkin hights and power setting for different stages on YouTube I’ll see if I can find it.

My advice to you would be to lower your ppm slowly to like 550 going into the flip and keep it there unless you see deficiency’s or you run off numbers are going plus or minus 100 ppm of what your giving. unless you running co2 and are totally dialed in ya really don’t need more except when it’s time to add bloom boosters perhaps but even then it’s not that much. 1 ml of koolbloom is 30 ppm so even when your using the recommended 2.5 mil In late flower ppm is only increasing 45 more. You may come across some strains thats a pig but for the most part that’s the # . I’m using 2.5 ml of silica, adding 1/2 mil of cal mag just to be safe , 2.3 grams of maxi and 2.5 ml of lq koolbloom right now per gal . That’s only 550 ppm including my 140 tap water. I’m slowly reducing the Strength going into harvest . next week 440 ppm and going to the dry koolbloom to finish them off .



As far as my veg time I got behind in my grow and verged for 6 weeks I think. Should have flipped at 4-5 tho .

I didn’t defoliate as much as I should have . Was a bit hesitant. I defoliated a few days before the flip giving them a bit of time to recover before going into transition and again in week 3 of flower but I should have did more I think . Benefits out weigh the negatives imo. I’ll be harvesting in another two weeks or so. Key lime kush has a genetic trait to foxtail as does the blue cheese ... my luck . One of each plant foxtailed , the good kind so they say , if there is such a thing . Frosty as hell though and unbelievably pungent Smells like a mixture of garlic cheese and like fruity pebbles with a twist of lime waking in the room lol. Key lime will at least double in size regardless of which pheno you get after flip. I got one of each . Definitely not a banner harvest but should be tasty nun the less. Looking forward to the fall run. Summer was way to stressful to flower in and I should have all the time in the world until the new year to put all my time into the grow.


Decided against the growers choice light after seeing disturbing par numbers that didn’t come close to what they were advertising . May get the hlg 650r I dunno tho... so many lights and I can’t make up my mind. Gotta get rid of this one tho that’s for sure. I want bigger more dense colas and I know I can get bigger yields.

Next Sumer the rooms getting over hauled . Becoming one big 9x5 flower room . Upgrading to a 10 “ fan Still only going to grow 4-6 plants . 2 under my light im using now and 4 under whatever light I decide to get and I need to decide soon. I would leave ya with a few pics but every now and then this app on my phone won’t let me , I’ll try later . Ttys ~ vap


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Sup bro , everything looks great and the girls look all sexy after losing some junk in the trunk lol
Yeah man, light distance is a bitch at first . I’m just getting back into growing after taking sometime off. My lamps were a bit to close I think . I have an advanced xml 650. One of the better blurple lights . Huge price tag at 1700 hundred . ( if I only knew then what I know now ) it has CREE XML and Bridgelux Blue and White Led’s.
10W CREE XML Single Chips US Made. 635 from the wall. The Cree chips really penetrate the canopy .. I believe I had my lights to close , some bleaching on leaves and I think the cause of some foxtailing. The whole plant foxtailed so I’m really leaning towards a genetic thing . Can’t wait to get a new light tho. I emailed growers choice and they got right back to me , assured me the light is as advertised , the Gavita has a one month lead time. I dunno ..decisions decisions .
Good move dropping down your ppm going into flower. I burned some tips going in to aggressively and yield definitely suffered I believe. Im going to get some real nice frosty nugs tho and if that key lime tastes anything like it smells I’ll be growing that for a while. Needs a lot of training all the way through to get the most outta her.. not a big yielder but I’m a quality guy over quantity anyway. Trichomes are stacked on top of each other and totally covering the nugs. Even on the fan leafs . Going to grab some bubble bags for my trim.

I was a little worried after defoliating but in a week you will never know you did it. Do it again in the 3rd week of flower. Reading a lot about shwatzing ( spelling off)

Glade I was able to help a bit , it’s great bouncing ideas off one another.

I have a week to 10 days till harvest. I can’t believe I actually made it through. It was way to hot to flower and super stressful. From now on Ill be vegging during August when the plants like the high temp and humidity and flipping in sept and full flower by oct , 4 more following them up and I should be able to get 3-4 runs in a year . Anyway it looks as if the GC app is letting me post some pics so I will leave you with a few . Talk to ya soon bro Carp Diem ~ vape





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It's genetics, not environment or any kind of stress.