Clones...One plant or many?(laws)

Discussion in 'Advanced Growing Techniques' started by T.Bug, Feb 10, 2007.

  1. High all! :wave: Not sure if this is the right area for this, but hey... the growers are the ones who would care. Right?
    Anyways, I was wondering if there was a way to show in court that some 16 clones from the same plant would in fact be considered one plant instead of many. Technically it is only one plant, so...
    Any thoughts?
    Peace and keep em green, TBug
     
  2. Hey Tbug,

    This is probably a question for the legal area or even for an actual lawyer, though I can try to assist.

    First I'd recommend you actually look up the laws in regards to what LEO considers to be 'a plant'. My understanding is a seed with a tap root, leaves with a stem in soil/water are BOTH considered to be a seperate infraction of 'a plant'. LEO is not concerned with the actual genetics of what is being grown and the law does not regulate it in that regard - strictly how many can they prove you are 'trying' to grow.

    SO... if you snip a stem with 1 leaf on it, put it in a glass of water - you are attempting to grow a plant.

    Now a lawyer may be able to dance around the above example but it would not be based on the genetics (or clone) but based on intent to 'manufacture'.
     
  3. I totally agree with slypknow, it doesn't matter if they are all genetically the same, they are seperate plants. Using that defense you might as well plead guilty.
     
  4. I believe it's,"onced it has developed ROOTS it is considered a seperate plant."
     
  5. i don't know how much help this is but in the cannabis clubs, clones are much more expensive then the cuttings- which sound like what your saying. The cuttings are cheaper they say becuase they are legally classified as something else, i have no idea as to what tho.
     
  6. High ken! Thanks, but after looking at many of the laws(my area), its mostly about weight. So im not sure that the number of plants is even an issue. Peace, TBug
     

  7. Umm no the cuttings are cheaper because you have to root them yourself...
    im not sure why they are handing out cuttings, that seems really inefficient, you sure your not mixing it up with something else?
    the club selling clones makes sense.. but to sell a cutting? all that is is a cutting off a plant... nothing more? so they make you take it home and root it? hmmm
     
  8. From a legal standpoint it is better to stay away from SOG grows. In some states you will be judged by the amount or mass of plant matter you were growing (stems, roots, leaves, everything, not just bud). In other states it is the number of plants that matters (even if they just a few inches tall). However, in both cases you will not benefit from having tens of plants (even if they were just clones) as the jury will be lead into thinking that you were growing for commercial purposes.
     

  9. These cuttings have some or little roots on them but they still consider them cuttings, not clones. And yes the owner of the co-op told me that it was a different legal classification, but I can't be sure he a credited source. But they sell the cuttings mad cheap and seeing as I'm getting an EZcloner it shouldnt be a problem to est. the roots myself.
     
  10. I got a question, not sure if you can answer, but it said on that site for ohio "Cultivation: less than one hundred grams
    no incarceration and a 100 dollar fine"
    does this mean that no penalty for veg or do they take the whole plant and weigh it or something?
     
  11. They take the weight of the ENTIRE plant. This includes leaves, stems, and roots. However, if you have a good lawyer he will make sure that the jury/judge understands that none of that can be smoked, only the flowers, which will help reduce your punishment.
     

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