Christianity is inherantly evil

Discussion in 'Religion, Beliefs and Spirituality' started by yurigadaisukida, May 13, 2011.

  1. Just like Islam

    Army of god
    Gunpowder plot
    Orange volunteers
    Iron guard
    Lords resistance army

    Classic argument: "they don't represent my faith"

    Yea just like the guy at the store doesnt represent their company right?

    The reality is this. No organization has ever caused more pain, more suffering, more oppression, and more innocent lives to be lost than the Christian faith.

    Religion is evil and as long as it exists no one is safe. Even in America the Christian state, we are being killed by our own Christian terrorists. Look up the names I posted. That isn't even the tip of the iceberg.

    Remember that one guy who was beheaded for suggesting the scientific fact that the earth is round? Galaleiho or something. Yea that was Christian oppression.

    Remember the crusades? Yea there were like 5 of them.

    Even now Christians are trying to take over the world. Christians have taken control of our (USA) government, and used our tax payer dollars to fund their crusade against Islam. They are trying to take science out of school so they can brainwash us with their propaganda.

    Look up if you don't believe me, a list of terrorists. You'll see an official list that the USA and our allies consider terrorists. It's clearly Christian bias.

    Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying Christians are evil, I'm just saying Christianity is.

    How can you say worship me or suffer unimaginable pain for eternity, and then not be considered evil?

    As long as religion exists, fundamentalists will exists.
    As long as fundamentalists exist, extremists will exists.
    As long as extremists exist, terrorists will exist.

    As long as religion exists, you are not safe.
  2. I will agree, however what you call Christianity I call Churchianity. True Christianity is a loving and beautiful religion, however most of it's followers do not actually follow it, they don't even TRY to follow it really, they just pick a few parts and then continue to act like wrathful heathens thinking "it's all good, i'm like, forgiven yo".

    If the world could behave the way Christianity dictates to behave in actuality, the world would be a wonderful place. I mean like "loving your neighbor" and "not taking revenge" and "viewing even criminals and scum as equals" etc., imagine if everyone could behave like that.

  3. false, as long as people have opinions, fundamentalists and extremists will exist.

    Religion is no more inherently evil than politics, people just abuse both.

    People are inherently evil.
  4. this is true

    the ideals of religion without the bs would be much more apealing. however i think people know what is right from wrong regardless of church, so yea, they teach good things but nothing we shouldnt already know.

    im actually an ex catholic and for a while i was a new age catholic that believed god existed but the bible wasnt meant to be taken literally

    i since realized that you cant change a religion that is wrong to make it right every time. if god exists the point of all this war and crap is to teach us to get along before he will reveal himself. that sounds way more plausable than the heaven hell retoric
  5. I would recommend "A Course on Miracles" for anyone interested in Christianity but looking to avoid all the dogma. It's a book that is essentially a new Christianity that just has the basic most important aspects, and it is still a fairly large book.
  6. a new christianity?

    well if it is christianity than jesus is the main man, hense the word

    any new age religion based on christianity would just as wrong, because the core concept of jesus is that he is here to save you.

    you can chose to take out the going to hell part and just accept jesus for heaven, but that would still make you a heretic

    the mormons are a great example of what happens when you try to evolve religion

    if your going to start new, you might as well rewrite everything

    of coarse i may have just made a huge incorrect assumption that the faith is jesus based, but you did call it christianity
  7. #7 Postal Blowfish, May 13, 2011
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    the problem with the prime religions is that they were created in such a way as to disallow revision to keep them culturally relevant. you can have a religion that preaches morality, but if you simply wait for moral people to come along, you will always have a problem with disorder. in more barbaric times, harsh punishment was more justified to keep order. in modern times, we're refined far beyond that, but those old barbaric ideas were not. so what we end up with is relevant ethical advice rendered hypocritical by the necessities of ancient society.

    if someone is revising their religion to keep the relevant ethical messages and remove the barbaric ideas, i'm all for that.
  8. but there is no need for it to be a religion to teach right from wrong

    you shouldnt need god to tell you that killing is wrong, you shouldnt need hell, or heaven,

    most of religion was made to controll people, and now they take every word in the bible seriously

    we dont need a bible, or a saviour, or a god,

    we just need to realize that together we are stong.

    if god is out there, he is so far beyond our understanding it would be pointless to speculate anything, and even more pointless to worship

    the most i can logically see is a respect for the miracle of existance. inteligent or not.
  9. Christianity is false.

    Books falsified. A king decided what was in and what was out. A "non-christian" king. Who wanted to rule a bigger empire by combining religions. Made the directly opposing former religion and their deitys the bad guys. ez pz.

    THEN, killed all who opposed. Kept the opposing force as a marketing tool to extract money.

    God has no opposing force. If God did, he is not god. There will be no war for your souls.

    History is written by those in power.

    Chrsitianity is not beautiful. Its fake. The truth is plain to see, but people blindly follow anyways. WTF?

    Id like a Christian to speak up right now. Tell us how the the same people who "killed" Jesus unified and created the new testament in his name. Killed those who still read the books that were'nt included. And why do you overlook this shit?

    My only non-erbals post for Friday the 13th.
  10. In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.

    The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).

    This type of criminal behavior should shock any moral person. Murder, rape, pillage, plunder, slavery, and child abuse can not be justified by saying that some god says it’s OK. If more people would actually sit down and read the Bible there would be a lot more atheists like myself.
  11. How Christianity was the catalyst of the Holocaust:

    Hitler’s anti-Semitism grew out of his Christian education. Austria and Germany were majorly Christian during his time and they held the belief that Jews were an inferior status to Aryan Christians. The Christians blamed the Jews for the killing of Jesus. Jewish hatred did not actually spring from Hitler, it came from the preaching of Catholic priests and Protestant ministers throughout Germany for hundreds of years. The Protestant leader, Martin Luther, himself, held a livid hatred for Jews and their Jewish religion. In his book, “On the Jews and their Lies,” Luther set the standard for Jewish hatred in Protestant Germany up until World War 2. Hitler expressed a great admiration for Martin Luther constantly quoting his works and beliefs.

    Now, you must remember before Hitler rose to Chancellor of Germany the country was in a deep economic depression due to the Versailles treaty. The Versailles treaty demanded that Germans made financial reparations for the previous war and Germany simply was not self sufficient enough in order to pay the debt. Hitler was the leader that raised Germany out of the depression and brought them back to a world recognized power. Due to his annulment of the financial woes of the Germanic people he became their redeemer and they anointed him as the leader of the German Reich Christian Church in 1933. This placed him in power of the German Christian Socialist movement which legislates their political and religious agendas. It united all denominations, mainly the Protestant/Catholic and Lutheran people to instill faith in a national Christianity.
  12. Religion is a tool. Like all tools, they can be used properly, or they can be misused. Religion's main uses have been to control populations, justify bad behavior, or to improve your own. In the last case, religion is potentially one of the greatest forces for good in the world.

    Science has shown that there is indeed a part of the brain that responds to the spiritual- called in a NEWSWEEK article (in the '90's) the "God part of the brain".

    As far as I can tell,there are 2 types of religious belief- those with an all powerful creator, and those that do not. There are advantages to both, as well as shortcomings. Underneath most, if not all deist religions, past the dogma and other nonsense men have polluted it with is this nugget of insight, and since this thread is specifically directed at Christianity I will use Jesus' words paraphrased form the bible. When asked by the Apostles what the greatest commandment was, Jesus replied," Love your God with all your heart, and the second is very much like it, Love your fellow man as you love yourself."

    This concept informs us that as humans, we are all in the same boat, and when you remove all the layers of race, religion, nationality, etc... We are really all the same. This automatically sparks some degree of brotherhood and compassion in most people.

    Religion is meant to be inclusive, compassionate, and a means to improve the lives of everyone.

    There are good tools for certain jobs, and tools that are less useful. The tool is inanimate, it is the use it is put to.

    and btw... it's spelled INHERENTLY.
  13. Clearly not every person who follows christianity is evil. Not even close. Therefore, you should stop getting so worked up over labels, and focus on the problems THEMSELVES, which are found in all groups. Cuz guess what? Christianity is the biggest religion in the world. You calling 1/3 of the world population evil isn't going to change that.
  14. i'm am just amazed at how many people can post but can't read, CHRISTIANITY is evil, more so the bible which is the tool for enslavement of weak minded people. freedom from religion is freedom from oppression . WORSHIP ME OR SUFFER UNIMAGINABLE CONSEQUENCES , sounds a little sadist to me.
  15. Yes, I can't read :rolleyes:

    I'm amazed that so many people can't grasp the simple concept that not all christians, in fact, quite a small number of christians, are conservative evangelicals who take the scriptures to be entirely literally. So you see, they follow christianity, and in fact, they make up the majority of Christians, yet they do not put much stock in said "evil" passages.

  16. this seemed awfully familiar when i found it, so it might have been posted here elsewhere recently

  17. funny how the numbers change.

    when its convenient, 1/3 of the world is christian

    but when its questioned because of whatever, then its only a small group.
  18. funny how this thread is based on everyone raging CHRISTIANITY IS EVILLL!!!! and no one so far has responded to what i posted.
  19. the nature of life is evil it's a dog eat dog world. last time i knew lion's didn't tickle zebra's to death. we are educated and moral and cast out anything that's not , like the bible, quran , the torah and many other religous tools for oppression.

  20. yes but not just religion...its the people who use religion as a tool of control that are evil

    1st commandment in Christianity THOU SHALT NOT KILL.

    it doesn't say thou shalt not kill other christians, or thou shalt not kill unless people disagree with you, or thou shalt not kill unless you want something, just thou shalt not kill. simple.
    if the people who make you all think that "religion/christianity are evil" actually listened to what their religions said? none of these problems would exist.

    Fundamentalists, extremists, these are people who use religion as an excuse to justify what they do, and they use it also to manipulate others to their will by misinterpreting religious texts.

    Now i don't agree with everything the bible/quran/torah say because they were written by people, so obviously at some point someone was like "oh...if i change this, i can make people listen to me"

    but i do agree with parts of all of them. Religion is not inherently evil, that claim is simply ludicrous.

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