Bye bye Alt Right

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SmokinP, Aug 16, 2017.

  1. Again, your lack of knowledge about America is astounding.
    Learn the 1st amendment, then learn why it matters.
     
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  2. who incited who? We have been talking about this on several different threads. Antifa incited the riot.
     
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  3. I'm not trying to change anything here J, I'm calling as I see it and what I'm seeing is the beginning of the end for the Alt-right.

    Do you identify with the Alt-right J?
     
  4. just in case you weren't aware, heres the actual text of the first amendment.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
     
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  5. where have you ever seen anything I have written or shared that would cause you to even ask that question?
     
  6. I'm well aware of the Bill of Rights, etc... What I'm saying is that's out the window if you're a Nazi/white supremacist. Your Johnny foreigner routine is cute though.

    Incitement to hatred is what we saw in Charlottesville not a peaceful rally by the Alt-right.
     
  7. Why do you think I'm asking rather than stating J?
     
  8. #28 Praetorian, Aug 16, 2017
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    @SmokinP are you on here openly proclaiming that you only believe people should be allowed to speak as long as they agree with you?
    I don't agree with Antifa, but I'll fight for their right to freely speak. You seem incapable of affording the same human courtesy to your own political opponents. That's fascist as fuck to me.

    If you knew the basics about American culture, I wouldn't have to keep calling you out on blatant inaccuracies.
    You are out of your mind if you think the alt right (or Antifa) are going anywhere after Charlottesville. The Johnny foreigner routine will stop when you stop saying ridiculous things like the 1st amendment doesn't count if it's speech YOU disagree with.
     
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  9. because you know the answer and are trying to get a rise out of me?
     
  10. Antifa didn't start it, common decent US citizens who are sick of looking at fag Nazis parading around did.
     
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  11. Perhaps the concept here needs to be explained to our current president - it seems his perspective is that we were all created by the same "God" (his words). I sense that he views the press and the people who challenge him unworthy of these rights to free speech and is actively directing efforts to impinge upon them.
     
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  12. I wasn't really trying to insult you my friend. We really used to agree on so many things but this communist shit you are on these days, I just can't abide.

    You actually admit to wanting to shut people up and deny their basic human right to free speech and peaceful assembly just because you don't agree with what they are saying.

    That is fucked up man. I don't care if it's BLM and antifa it in the streets shouting whatever drivel they are on about as long as they keep it peaceful. These "Nazis" were peacefully assembling before the fascists came in to stomp their rights. Some idiot ran a few over with a car. That doesn't revoke the rights of the rest.
    If you think it does then I just don't know what else to say to you.
     
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  13. Freedom of speech is a lot more limited than a lot of people here realize.
     
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  14. Then it's not really freedom of speech now is it?
     
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  15. based on what? What laws or EO's has he written to try to limit the press? ZERO.
     
  16. I'm glad that my family members who are Democrats are smart enough to know that Antifa and BLM are extremist groups on their side. Sadly most of the Left falls victim to the identity politics and socialist propaganda.
    Bet you didn't say that when Madonna said she had thought about blowing up the White House. "it was a joke"

    hypocrites.
     
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  17. Take it up with your government, I suggest. The ICCPR states there are "special duties and responsibilities" that go along with the freedom to speak one's mind. Limitations to freedom of speech relate to libel, slander, obscenity, porn, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified info, copyright violations, trade secrets, NDAs, right to privacy, right to be forgotten, and public security.
     
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  18. have you not watched any of the videos posted about this? Seriously dude watch them. You can see clearly that not only it was ANTIFA's intention to start shit to get it shut down, you can literally see them doing that very thing.
     
  19. I don't follow Madonna so I wouldn't know.

    Nice try though.
     
  20. what relavence does the UN have over US free speech?

    https://treaties.un.org/doc/publication/unts/volume 999/volume-999-i-14668-english.pdf

    we are a sovereign nation. We are not run by the UN.
     

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