theres ben alot of posting on grow sites lately so hers a link http://www.ripoffreport.com/report.com/reports/ripff174396.htm theses are real ripoffs marijuanagrams,also know as marijuanagirls,if link dont show page ,then do a search on scroogle,type in marijuanagrams,also people.nl,..riped people for thousands of dollars...mj grams,also know as amsterdameasy@hush.com bob and marlene,authorites in canada and rcmp camp ooking for them...they took his credit card and used it to check in to a motel in england...wanted for fraud big time!...articale even states hell,s angels wants them too....thats really bad news,they declared war against the mafia,sometime ago....bunch real ripoffs,besides just being not safe,a waqy to get busted...if they ever sent it...so dont be fooled grow yo own...just wanted to warn new growers....peace out buhead/