Bush is a fucking idiot

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  1. there arent words to describe the level of pure idoicy the creature known as bush and his possy have managed to accend to..i\'m serious! i have a theory that somehow the god from the plane of \"Fucking idiot\" has found a host body and has chosen this time to manifest himself to mankind.. if that texas shit monkey wins this election i am officially leaving the country. think about what i\'m saying here.. i\'m going to FLEE the country just to get away from that black hole of pure fucking crap. just up and leave my apartment my family my friends and get the hell out of dodge. fuck it i\'m going to smoke :mad:

    ...and on a further note WHO THE FUCK IS SUPPORTING BUSH?! i swear if i ever run into someone thats pro bush ima break his fucking face for possibly getting his stupid on me. i dont want that shit! think i want to end up like that pretzle choking, world leader vomoting, non english(and now spanish) speaking, world peace shattering, alaska raping(up the nose even),Goverment bankrupting, economy eating fucktard? hell no.. for that matter i hereby give the fucktard of the century award to him.. i\'ve never even heard of someone so fucking stupid

    HE CANT EVEN TALK FOR GODS SAKE!

    the only thing i can say to bush supporters(gotta keep it short and simple to try and avoid the above face breaking) is \"name one usefull thing he\'s done or shut the hell up\" ..strangly every last one has shut up

    *bows* end of rant

    *edit* nm the face breaking.. but i would still shower afterwards to avoid infection
     
  2. i agree....i dont think i feel as strongly as you do, but i agree. and i know a lot of people that have the same idea as you... leaving if Bush gets elected. depending on how things go, i might be joinin you guys. i have family in a rich part of Mexico. i got someplace to go. lol.
     
  3. He rebounded from a recession caused by a) clinton and b) 9/11.
    We lost 3 million jobs for various reason, the big tech. bomb during the clinton years started alot of internet jobs which were never ment to become a permanent source of income. 9/11 cause alot of people to worry about investing in america. We have, however, had the largest econimic boom in 20 years since then, created over half of those jobs back. No child left behind act?

    like it or not, 9/11 changed us. We took a big hit, and i think Bush has done a good job recovering from it and trying to stop terror where it exist. We liberated 50 million people who were being murdered by the 100,000s for not supporting hussain. We didnt find ne WMD yet, but like in the gulf war, hussain had plenty of time to ship them off to his allies. He has used them agiasnt iranin the IRAN-IRAQ war, he used them against his own people, he used them agaisnt the Kurds, so to say he has never or doesnt have any is stupid.

    go ahead and move, tell me what country is better than the U.S. The U.S. has the highest standard of living in the world. Our poor are richer than the poor in any other country in the world.

    Why dont you tell me what he has done to riun your life?

    In fact, tell me what your candidate is going to do to change it.

    If we pull out of the middle eat, it will go back to its old ways, and i guerentee it will hurt us later on down the line. We have lost 1,000 soliders in the war on terror, in almost 2 yrs. We lost 3,000 innocecnt in one day. Those 1,000 died liberating 50,000,000 people and overthrowing an evil regime.

    BTW, i am not even a registered rebublican, i am just going to vote for bush. Come to Macon Ga and break my face, please. Your post explains the desperation and stupdiy of your party. Read the papers, try to inform yourself before posting dribble like that. I will be glad to prove every one of them wrong.

    My guess u are eather not voting or for kerry. Please tell me why you are voting for kerry. Please, Please. I have been trying to get 1 reason to vote for him other than he isnt bush for months but i cant get one.
     
  4. Okay Gilligan... If you are going to post on the issue don\'t make facts up...

    For example... the poor in America are NOT richer then the rest of the worlds poor. There are many countries that have a higher standard of living then us....

    Also, the population of Iraq is 22 million, NOT 50 million. You see, you made a statement that had an accuracy of 50%... Best not to make statements like that when discussing something so seriously?

    What has Bush done to \"ruin my life?\" Well my life isn\'t ruined, but I have relatives and friends that are getting shot at every day because of Bush. If Bush didnt steal the election they wouldn\'t be in that situation. In fact, if I wasn\'t so impatient I could come up with about 100 other examples of how Bush has directly effected my life, but I know it wont do anything to sway your opinion. I have argued with your type enough times already to know the pointlessness of it.

    However I ask you not to make facts up. What if people actually believed you? They would have been misinformed... Funny, who else has done that to people... Hmm, Oh I know, Bush!

    That fucker manipulated his way into Iraq. Do you really want a president that will LIE to those that vote for him?
     

  5. And the winner is... ::drumroll:: LITTLE WING!
    *applause*

    Fkin\' pwnt.
     
  6. I\'m really curious as to why people think being in iraq is a good thing. What ever happened to Osama Bin Laden? Seriously think about this people. The guy, who is said to have orchestrated the attack on 9/11 is still at large. And because why? Oh yeah... Iraq! I guess those people who died on 9/11 will get their justice... well, once Bush finishes Daddy\'s war. Those who died are the last thing on Bush\'s mind, but are the first to be mentioned by his lips for a political gain in the name of patriotism. Bullshit
     
  7. Add that to the people that live in afg under the taliban rule.

    There is no evidence bush stole the election. I have yet to see anything proving that. Sorry to burt ur conspiricy bubble. As bad as you want it to be true, it is not. The fact you honestly believe it is tru voids nething u have to say. If im giving 50% a statememt with 50% accuracy, your shooting blnaks.

    Your friends and reletives signed up for the service knowing the risk, espically in the last few years when im sure many of them joined up. If clinton would have taken care of osama, we wouldnt have gotten attacked to begin with.

    As for manpulating his way into iraq.
    1)Hussain has toyed with the un for years.
    2)Hussain has used WMD agaisnt his peep, the kurds, and Iran.
    3)The intel that said he had them came from russia, went through the senate intelligence committe in which Kerry and Edwards were members of (not that kerry showed up) before the president even saw it.

    Want to talf about lies?
    Kerry has changed his story about being in Cambodia 5 times now
    He has admited to commiting war crimes
    He wont produce his war document to prove the SBVFT wrong because methinks he cant
    Almost everything he says he tand for now contridct his votes he made while in the senate.

    Again, Im not a die hard republican. I am voting for bush but i have looked at both sides of the issue, i vote on the issue not straight party. In times i war i think we need a war time presient who wont flip flop or waver on his goals.
    Im not going to defend everything he has does.

    Also, everyoneincluding clinton knew we were heading into recession before bush took office, 0/11 was planned before bush got into office, blaming any of that on him his ludacris.

    Most of our \"poor\" have places to live, food on the table, access to education, and ways to better themselves.
     
  8. Damn you are *No name-calling. *RMJL, if you pull your head out of your ass* < And none of this either. you will relize that most of western europe has a higher standard of living than america, and they definately have more social programs to take care of their poor, for example free medical care for everyone.

    what has bush done to ruin my life? well how about the patriot act? the patriot act violates everyones rights. thanks to bush the government can watch anyone, and monitor anyones phone conversations and internet use without a warrent. also, thanks to bush the government can now arrest people for no reason and imprison them with no contact to the outside world.

    what is my candidate going to do to change it?
    well if the american people were smart enough to realize that nader was the best cantidate, he would end the war in iraq, end the war on drugs, and repeal the patriot act.
     

  9. That\'s because they are socialist, and the honest citizen works to feed the lazy..


    kerry voted for the patriot act as well....I have to admit though I\'m really pissed about that..


    He\'s going to make this country a socialist shithole in the process as well, oh and the best canidate is Michael Badnarik of the libertarian party..wait wait..so your canidate would just pull out of iraq leaving all those people by themselves?!?!?? great plan..
     
  10. UM. NO. Micheal Badnark is the best candidate. I would be voting libertarian but i know he wont win and i not want kerry to win.

    Western Europe does not have a higher standard of living than the united states. I dont base the standard of living on what my govt can provide me, i base it on what i can provide for myself. I dont live in europe, but ive visited and it didnt look like an eutopia by any means. The united states has poor, middle class and rich. Europe has basicly one class of people. Capitalism provides a chance for everyone to better themselves, not this keep the poor man down mentality so many people have. It allows you to be rewarded for your hard work, not your money taken from you to support the ones not doing anything to help themselves. Socialism works when the poor vastly outnumber any other class or during a reconstruction.

    How do you think all this free healthcare is paid for? Tax dollars. Where does this money comefrom? Taxing the rich, who already pay most of the taxes. Free healthcare isnt the answer. Some of the main reasons healthcare is so much is because the dr has so much insurance. One minor thing goes wrong and sue happy americans will try to get as much money as possible. Theree are other reasons but a good chunch of your medical bills are for the DR\'s insurance.

    Um, Al Queda declared a Jihad on us in 1995. Is Nader just going to ask them to stop and they will just do so. I dont like the patriot act eather, but i dont really worry about it. I dont think the govt is worring about me. I dont agree with it, but have the feds came to your door and arrested you for tips they got spying on you? no.

    Badnark would also repeal it ( very big on privacy rights), also stop the war on drugs, but would make people responsible for themselves and their actions insteading of relying on the government to support them. I understand people need assistence, but nothing in life is free. Socialism discourages people to want to better themselves thus leading to a lower standard of life. If the poor would get an education, stop relying on the govt to buy them everything, then these programs wouldnt be needed. We should reform the programs we have, not add more.
     
  11. damn grim, you posted almost my exact thoughts while i was typing. Great minds think alike lol.

    By the way Pinthet, i wouldnt make fun of bush\'s mastery of the english language after typing your second paragraph. I also think you have real anger issues that you need to get checked out. A few more posts like that and you might be the new winner of the fucktard award. Looks like i named one good thing bush has done for us and you became quiet.
     
  12. dude, you don\'t understand socialism at all, socialism encourages all of the people to work together to better the entire country. capitalism encourages all people to compete with eachother. the rich work to oppress the poor. the rich business owners exploit the blue coller workers. in socialism all people are basicaly equal. in capitilism there are always people living in poverty, and a small percentage of the population have most of the money. the rich business owners would be nothing without all of the people working under them, so why should the rich get richer and pay the workers menial wages?
     
  13. Capatilism is a free economy, and to be truly free, your economy must be too. But if you insist on a discussion read this and feel free to post in this thread http://forum.grasscity.com/showthread.php?t=44881

    yeah..I dunno about great minds..it took me about 10 minutes to finally figure out you typed out that paragraph as I was typing out mine :D hahaaha

    Yeah man..whoever believes they should be able to punch somone for their political beliefs has some major issues, and would probably fit in better in sudan or iraq..
     
  14. well i\'ve seen America as well as lots of Europe, and i have to admit, the standard of living for the poor of Western Europe is far better than in America...........here\'s a scenario for you............i have a heart attack, someone calls 999..........i need a new heart, and one becomes available........they pop it in............how much does this service, and all the drugs i\'ll need as well.................£0.........not one dollar, not one dime...........can the same be said in the States?......as for a lot of Europe like Germany and France, maybe not as good a healthcare, but it certainly wouldn\'t cost the price of a house to get a new heart there either..........

    and the cost of this service...........a bit more tax, in fact a lot more tax, but we don\'t bitch about it as it\'s by the people for the people.............and no the rich didn\'t pay any more for it, in fact if you own a mansion and thousands of acres of land, you still pay the same tax, and the same rates as everyone else..............sure we have poor, sure we\'re not perfect, but to state that Western Europe is worse off..........nope...........and very rarely will a Doc get sued here.........only for severe malpractice, if my mum had died getting her brain tumor removed as a last resort..........i\'d still have thanked the doc for trying..........not sue him for $40,000,000...............that\'s what Capatalism encourages...........the ritch cannot stay rich without the poor................in fact i read a sign in NY city that said it qiute well...........\"If you had all the money in the world, we\'d just start using something else!\"

    as for Bush, i\'ve just about gave up on him............at least Kerry was in Nam, Bush was in a unit his daddy made sure weren\'t gonna be going anywhere near South East Asia............how Kerry can be called out on that i don\'t know, as Bush isn\'t even his equal in that case scenario..................as for Al Queda...........like it was said above...........why Iraq for Sept 11th?

    Did America attack China for the Japs hitting Pearl Harbour......?

    look at the bigger picture, and add in the word..........OIL

    Peace out............Sid
     
  15. so...kerry was in vietnam.....that\'s why I should vote for him....man I hope if I ever run for president people don\'t bitch at me because I didn\'t go to iraq, or afgahnistan. Again we are looking for reasons we SHOULD vote for kerry not reasons we shouldn\'t vote for bush. I don\'t really think law suites have anything to do with capitalism. If they would simply make it illegal to sue on the basis of pain and suffering doctors malpractice insurance would go way down. Like if I got in a car wreck caused by another person, and I sued for the pain the accident caused me, not fixing it, but just the pain I was in. I have no idea how people go about puting a price on pain, but apparently it\'s possible. People can buy healthcare...they are going to be paying for it out of their checks anyways..it just depends on who you want to pay it to. I don\'t believe in any socialistic programs, I am my own responsibility


    Did America attack China for the Japs hitting Pearl Harbour......?

    ...japan was at war with china....and kicking their ass as well.

    You can\'t tell me there were not any al queda operatives in iraq, I mean they were in florida..why not iraq. But yeah...saddam was a great guy and all..we should have left him alone. Why don\'t you disassociate it with 9/11, saddam was an asshole, who activley sought WMD used chemical weapons on his own people..he may not have contributedto 9/11. But why on earth do people feel the need to defend him?

    I don\'t know about the oil ..and i\'m sure we will get much cheaper oil after this...and well we should at least enough to payback how much money we spent on the war...I don\'t know if that was a catalyst or the main idea behind the war...I really don\'t know..but if we can start a democracy or even a socialistic government in iraq I believe it will be a good thing..maybe they didn\'t do it for the right reasons..but it will still be a good thiing
     
  16. The reason I can\'t vote for Bush is the same reason that I want my freedom..

    Bush went to Iraq to take over... He did exactly what he went for or else he would have Osama in a jail cell some where..

    I don\'t want the government to come into my home and take over just because they don\'t like my way of living.. But that is what Bush did.. There were no Iraqies calling Bush and begging him to come over there and help them out...

    The US government has extreme weapons of mass distructions.. To say some one else can\'t have them is like saying we are the god of the world and every one has to bow down to us... I believe in equality and that to me means if i Have something, then every one else should be able to have it too..


    If we still felt that Iraq had to be delt with, then
    we should have waited for the UN to back us up on going to Iraq.. That would have been the right thing to do..

    I always thought the government should do to the world as \"we the people\" want done to us...

    We have a war on drugs. I smoke pot.. I don\'t smoke in public.. If the gov where to treat me like they did Iraq, then, if they suspect I may be smoking pot in my home, they would be able to just come in and arrest me for smoking.. They already raid houses of people who only grow for themselves for personal use...

    The war on Iraq is no different that the war on drugs.. They both are to control the people of both situations to the way the government wants us to be..

    BTW when did the department of defense is for protecting the United States. When did defense become a word with an agressive meaning?

    If the US would pull our troops back from the rest of the world and put them around our boarders, we could protect our selves and the rest of the world wouldn\'t be able to touch us... The money wasted on having troops in all the other countries cost the tax payers trillions of dollars every year.. We could have complete health care and still pay half of what we do in taxes...

    We need to be taking care of ourselves before we take care of others..

    The US has hungry people every where.. Most of them being children.. There are just about as many deaths due to no health care and starvation in the US as any part of the world do.. But yet we will send billions of dollars worth of food across the world to feed a few instead of feeding all the hungry we have here...

    Kerry may be worse than Bush.. But we already know Bush is for full control of all the world and it\'s people... If he is allowed to continue, this will only allow him to take the rights of people who do drugs... It won\'t be long till he has the internet watched so he can send his law officers into our homes to see if we have pot or smoking... I don\'t think Kerry gives a rats ass if we smoke unless it effects other people...

    I could say alot more, but we all have our opinions and sitting here talking on a marijuanna message board is not going to change any thing...
    If this discussion was in the public, it might make all the differance. Being here it\'s not doing any good......
     

  17. I would bitch at you if you became a president that tried to sell the American people on multiple wars if you had no idea what a real war was actually like, unlike Kerry. You\'ll often find that people who have been in real wars and have been SHOT at don\'t like the idea of going to war as much as Bush and his cabinet do.


    Personally, I feel 100% unsafe in a world where Bush is president. Now you\'re trying to tell me that fear of being drafted, increased terrorist attacks, and continuing economic recession (all of which are real concerns of mine for another Bush term), don\'t matter in deciding my vote? Well, I\'ll make it easier for you: I agree with many of Kerry\'s platforms, and I do not agree with a single one of Bush\'s platforms. AND, at the same time, I have a lot of additional reasons not to vote for Bush. Weird how those two can coexist, eh?


    The only problem is that sometimes, suing for \"pain and suffering\" is necessary. I do agree that malpractice suits have gotten way out of hand, and many of them are frivolous, but that doesn\'t mean that ALL of them are.


    Well, this is a valid point, even if I don\'t agree with it. A lot of people don\'t like the idea of paying for others\' healthcare. Just hope that it\'s not YOUR insurance that runs out some day.


    \"There might have been al queda operatives in iraq\" is not at ALL the same as \"There WERE al queda operatives in iraq\". And certainly not the same as \"War with Iraq was justified on the grounds that significant links between Saddam Hussein and Al Queda were found.\"


    Another logical fallacy here. Saying \"Saddam was a horrible, ruthless dictator\" has no inconsistencies with saying \"We shouldn\'t have invaded Iraq\". Nobody (well, almost nobody) thinks Saddam was a good leader and shouldn\'t have been overthrown. A LOT of people, however, think the way in which we went about trying to get rid of Saddam was despicable. Thinking that does not entail \"defending\" him. And if being an evil dictator who slaughters his own people is reason enough for war, then why didn\'t we go to Chile years ago, where there was a guy doing the same thing as Saddam if not worse?


    Finally, I have something I agree with you about. I think a more stable government for Iraq would be a good thing. However, I think we went about trying to set up this new government in completely the wrong way, and now might not achieve our goal. And worse, I think there\'s a definite chance of another Saddam-like regime rising in retaliation for the American occupation.
     
  18. You know what gets me about the voting system of the States, is that, unless you have Millions in backing from big business, then you don\'t stand a chance of getting elected...........and also the fact that it generally boils down to 2 people........everyone else pulls out, instead of campaigning as well...............like Grim was saying, everyone should ask themselves why vote for Kerry?.........not.... why not vote for Bush?................surely if the\'re as bad as each other, then just abstain.

    as for Iraq..........i hate Sadaam i really do, he\'ll burn in the fires of hell for what he has to innocent human beings...........but one thing you cannot say is that he was an Al Queda sympathiser..........he hated them.........and if i remember correctly even killed a few that had been caught in Iraq................so my original point is still valid, only i\'ll change the country this time shall i?

    why after being attacked by Al Queda did bush attack Iraq......(where there were no Al Queda)............instead of spending $150,000,000,000 on helping out the poor Iraqi\'s (who never asked for any help) while the man who orchastrated the 9/11 attacks walks around freely to this day?

    For a $150 Billion Dollar ranson, his own mother would have sold him out!

    has anyone thought that the Iraqi\'s may not want to be in a Democracy.

    if fact here\'s a state by state breakdown of the war bill http://www.nationalpriorities.org/issues/military/iraq/CostOfWar.html

    BH i feel the same way, charity starts at home..........we have many of the same problems here, helping others when our own people need help first............

    oh and Grim , the reason it makes a diffrence about Nam, is that Bush was doing National service at the time, and he could have been sent there, like most others, but got moved by his dad to a unit that he knew wasn\'t going.................to comapare yourself to the position of Bush at the time would be wrong, unless your in the Armed services, and face the possibility of being sent to Iraq

    as for Kerry changing his story was it 5 times?.........about being in Cambodia, i think you\'ll find that most US soldiers couldn\'t have told you where the border was............maybe he was there maybe he wasn\'t..........maybe he thought he was there, like a lot of other US troops, all the trees look the same.............but the diffrence was.............at least he was there............Kerry is a patriot, Bush is not..............not that this should have anything to do with politics, but Bush\'s spin doctors love to dish the dirt, but they just don\'t like getting dirty in the process.................Peace out............Sid
     
  19. The main thing that gets me about this whole vietnam dealis most of you kerry supporters also supported clinton, a known draft dodger. Why is it ok for him to not even enlist, but bush serve stateside? Bush was discharged when the war was winding down to help with a political campaign, after completing his minimum requirements for that year. I dont think Kerry\'s \"war\" experences would help him be a better president but he keeps it in the spotlight. He is making it the centerpiece of his campaign. He should focus on his (try not to laugh) voting record in the senate which condradicts alot of what he is running on today, or atleast what he was running on, i cant even keep up with his changing stances.

    Bush didnt go to war to take over iraq. We havent claimed Iraq as an ameircan settlement. We went to over throw hussain and establish a stable govenment in one of the most influential countries in the middle east. Oil was an incentive, but not the only or main reason we went.

    since you think we have all the WMDs and are trying to control who has them, look at it like this. Lets say WMDs are pistols. A convicted felon cant go and legaly buy or possess a pistol. Hussain was under UN orders to disarm and toyed with the inspectors for years by not letting them look around and make sure he was following orders.

    Bud head, i dont think the war on terror is going to escilate to the government comming and arresting you because they think you smoke pot. That sounds a little extreme.

    Also, i dont think we have kids dieing from starvation at near the rate of other countries. They get free breakfest and lunch at school. If they dont eat supper, it is their sorry ass parents fault, not the governments.

    The terrorist attacked us from within, how is increased security on the borders going to stop that? Bush is trying to stop terrorism where before it starts, attacking them where they live, plan, and train. He is trying to cut all of their support.

    Panda, the economy has grown faster in the last year and a half than it has in a long long time. I wouldnt say a fear of a continuing recession is a reason not to vote for bush.

    As for Healthcare, Healtcare is going to cost you no matter what system you live under. Most people with decent jobs have Insurance covered by their employer. Another incentive to go to school, get an education, so you can get a good job.

    Socialsim = no indivduality, no account for your actions, others will pick up your slack, big govt, the govt controling every aspect of your life. The idea of everyone working for a great cause sounds good on paper, but it just doesnt work, espically in america. We have way to many people who abuse our current social programs, i cant even imagine what would happen if the U.S. was a socialist society.

    I am smart enough to run my own life, i dont need the govt running it for me.

    oh sid, oh sid, bush has never said anything about his service in vietnam. He even said kerrys service was honorable. I am 100% sure your are a clinton (draft dodger) supporter so dont give me this kerry is a patriot and bush isnt crap.

    As for not feeling safer with bush as pres, we were attacked 5 times under clinton. 4 abroad and once on the WTC. The plan to attack the WTC on 9/11 was hatched in 1995. It doesnt matter if we had ghondi, nader, willy nelson as president we would have got attacked. I think the fact we havent been attacked again as so many other nations have shows what we are doing over seas is effective.
     

  20. That\'s not true in the last week I have gone from voting for bush to badnarik
     
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