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Bud makes me not depressed

Discussion in 'Medical Marijuana Usage and Applications' started by Lynx, Dec 27, 2009.

  1. I love weed, but also I realized that it makes me happy (obviously). But not just any happy.. honestly I have nothing going for me right now besides the Army (which I'm joining next year) so now it just sucks because I have no girl, few friends, etc. whatever and I'm not in college (I got accepted but I chose not to go because I want to join the Army, I'm 18), and over the summer I was diagnosed with depression and ADHD. My parents don't want to pay the money for adderral and so weed levels me out instead. And of course its cheaper and the effects last just as long as adderral would. So it definitely has a medical use for me, I just wanted to share my story.

    -Lynx
     
  2. yep, feel the same way. i don't have adhd but pdd-nos tho.
     
  3. might make you not depressed for now, but it'll catch up to you and you might end up even worse, but who knows.. everyone is different. moderation is key
     
  4. good, and what's pdd-nos? if you don't mind me asking.
     
  5. why do you say that?
     
  6. It truly helps me out when I'm feeling down too. I hope everything works out for you lynx ;) you're not alone. :wave:
     
  7. Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) is one of the pervasive developmental disorders and autism spectrum disorders.
    PDD-NOS is a diagnosis for people who are well-described by the "PDD" label, but cannot be categorized by any other disorder. It is usually milder than autism and has similar symptoms to autism, with some symptoms present, and others absent.[1] This disorder is sometimes called "atypical autism" by autism specialists. The boundaries between PDD-NOS and non-autistic conditions are not fully resolved.[2]
     
  8. I feel for you man, in fact i'll pray for you. What can happen is a plethora of things but most common is
    A)depression - I actually use it for depression too.
    b)Schizophrenia and similar disorders.- some studies show that in certain populations there is an increased risk that THC activates certain audio neural pathways which would otherwise lay dormant.

    Friend, Dope is fun, happy, etc but please be careful, especially being 18. All the medical data stacks up that dope in the same way as per se' seroquel, doesn't belong in the developing brain.

    I personally go for low THC strains or at least the stuff that calms me e.g strawberry cough

    It's a nice smoke but very couchlocky after a while....you just lay there staring at the ceiling it's funny, but not productive.

    - Leaf will also make you not depressed :) just tastes like crap.

    - I still take a fairly inert SNRI for panic disorder (probably as a result of the Benzos as a youth---withdrawal is so bad, i've never had anything like this.... but dope helps with that
    too)


    O.k so finally Lynx like any medication it's meant for a purpose and for a duration. Because if you do go nuts on Mary, she'll screw you up and you'll be irrecoverably changed, trust me. I started smoking at 11 and started getting skunky crap, the stronger the better, and three times a day or more so clearly i was abusing it. By 18 I was borderline insane, I stopped for 13 years and at least 85.321234% :) if not all my body and mind returned to o.k.....but I came down with heaps of different ailments and then thought maybe, if i'm sensible I could use this as an anti-D, it worked .......welll,,,,,,,,,very well. but just at not too high dose or you'll regret it the rest of your life.)

    so yeah that's one angle as to how MJ can "catch up with you" but lets face it, you abuse any drug and you'll regret it........e.g. 500 asprin tabs at once:eek: yes it will cure you're headache and it will kill you at the same time :)

    L8RS
     
  9. well i use it for depresson as well it seems to level me out i tend to go for like high thc indica strain is what i mostly go after it calms me down helps me sleep it even helps me think more clearly and open myself up to new things and new ppl.
     
  10. Yeah, it wasn't the weed that was making you crazy... There were clearly some underlying conditions present...
     

  11. well done captain obvious, the point is that weed permanently changes a developing brain e.g. under 21

    Dude you really need to read, or at least download some ebooks ------ not on how to grow but the pharmacological effects of the 60 different cannabinoids.

    Weed can help, Weed can Hinder just depends how you use it, your chemical makeup etc

    and BTW the fact that you smoke weed, tells me that you also have some underlying condition too, so welcome to the club friend. I will begin printing your offical T-shirt today :hello:
     
  12. #12 Anubis578, Dec 30, 2009
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    1. How about you post a source backing up your claims? I've never seen any studies that support this, and I've done more than my fair share of research.

    2. And why do I need to do that? What did I say that indicated ignorance on the subject?

    3. Yeah, everything in moderation. However, marijuana is not nearly as psychologically damaging as you make it out to be. The potential to aggravate pre-existing conditions is there, but there's a distinction to be made.

    4. So just because I smoke weed I have underlying conditions? I'm not following your logic.
     
  13. firstly
    good call, knowledge empowers and makes aware.....as long as it is knowledge based on facts so Kudos for the call Anubis. Also

    1)Marijuana May Disrupt Brain Development | LiveScience, just one article and one perspective. There are many, perspectives that is. I'm sure if you learn to google correctly you'll find maybe even one or two more thousand links supporting this, but I know that we filter only what we want to see. So enjoy your drugs, but don't encourage abuse because this is simply not factual.

    Of course

    then of course there is a Pretty decent doco from the bbc.[​IMG]
    The guy that runs the doco is a clinical pshycologist(means there is some credibility afforded to what he says, besides he is very balanced) , and presents both the good(we all know that it is a good thing,)
    The Pirate Bay - The world's most resilient bittorrent site
    It's the one with the most seeds, I'm preety sure it's ok to download. if not sorry but it really is an excellent doco, don't be put off by the name:)

    [​IMG]
    The fact that It only took two minutes to find data and papers then post the links and have you
    shows that you haven't done your home work tsk tsk.
    2) blanket statements usually indicates either
    a) your not 100% on your facts, but close enough is good enough, or your just ignorant and haven't bothered to use google. What books do you have on the pharmocological side of things or research papers? Documentaries perhaps, as long as they are a qualified physician that or have credible references such as results from MRI's ....
    ScienceDirect - European Psychiatry : S26-03 The phenomenology of acute THC-psychosis
    Schizophrenia.com - Marijuana Cannabis and Schizophrenia
    Read the abstract, it has enough information without purchasing the whole article, Wikipedia is not a clinical source of information or even accepted in academic circles. Try handing a paper up based on it and they'll fail ya, because although a lot of info is accurate anyone could sign in and write anything.



    3)
    That's what you say but lets face it I'm not the one saying it, the clinical data says it let be clear about this, why else would I be touching it again after abstinence for 13 years???!!! Because it was the only thing that could relive my ailments and I had many.
    The problem is some papers show data supporting the statement that we already know – Marijuana can relieve and even totally remove depression – it did for me, even after the effects wore off the next day I just felt better.
    Summary, there are always pro's and con's to everymedicine/chemical substance we run through our body, MJ is great for cancer patients, It a fact and I'm not going to cite that because that's just silly. But tell me would you want to be the one who's responsible for encouraging people to smoke that in the wrong dosage or prolonged usage at high dosages will at least double the chance of Schizophrenia? And that's just one mental health issue it can precipitate. You wouldn't kill them, by no means, but your advice may land them in hot water.
    No offence at all my man with my reply, it may have been a little blunt, but lets be clear about something I'm not against MJ, not at all. I was very specific please re read what I said.

    And as for the minus rep you gave me, it's o.k. what I said wasn't stupid at all I think the fact that it took two minutes on google to find papers shows who is who


    I won't minus rep ya, because that's just not cool (unless you were really really stupid, but I don't think you are). Happy growing friend:hello:
     

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  14. I gotta say mrsoft, I've read only 3 posts by you, and you really make yourself out to be a condescending douche bag. You don't know everything, so stop pretending. Theres plenty of people here that know just as much or more about the effects of weed than you.

    Just because there is a chemical unbalance in your brain that lead to ailments of yours, doesn't mean it will happen to other people, or even necessarily that marijuana consumption uncovered it.



    So please, lose the 'tude :cool:.
     
  15. #15 Way2HigH4You_iX, Jan 1, 2010
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    First link:
    "Using brain scans, researchers found abnormalities in areas of the brain that interconnect brain regions involved in memory, attention, decision-making, language and executive functioning skills."
    i dont get the language and decision making skills part

    but the memory and attention happens to all herb smokers, not just the adolescence.
    maybe they we're high or smoked not too long ago when they took those brain scans.
    I'm pretty sure they aren't irreversible..

    Second Link:
    "Experts estimate that between 8% and 13% of all schizophrenia cases are linked to marijuna / cannabis use during teen years."

    about a 8%-13% of people with schizophrenia cases used marijuana in there teen years. 1.1% of the worlds population has schizo. which comes down to .01% of teens that smoke marijuana gets schizophrenia, when about 2/5+ teens smoke.

    im pretty sure its just a coincidence..

    *Anyone wanna double check my math? im pretty blown right now..*
     
  16. #16 mrsoft47, Jan 1, 2010
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    Yep, well some studies show that it triggers transient schizo etc However the lets say there is only 1.1% it's still alot of people considering marijuana is the most prolificly used drug in the world that's about 682000 people that are walking the rest of their lives miserable or on some BigPharma med........ still not nice

    So @Lynx, enjoy life, hopefully I have helped you in some way, that was the whole point, unfortunately I suffered a rep loss, not sure what to do about that 'cause it really wasn't that stupid a post.

    but oh well Peace man!:smoke: hope ya get in the army. Caveat emptor (google it)
     
  17. I'm not getting in to the arguement of it effecting brain development.
    But I am here to say, I helps with my depression too. I had sort of self-diagnosed myself with depression right around 13.
    I basically felt like life sucked for a while, because every day in the morning when I woke up I said "I am going to get up, go to school, come home, sit around, go to bed, wake up, and do the same thing over again. I have no fun, and am going nowhere with my sucky grades, but why try when it will just end up back to the same thing tomorrow?"
    When the weekend came, I would think "ok, I'll get up, sit around, go to bed, repeat. then go back to the hellhole everybody calls school."
    It was basically an everpresent boredom with life. Just a continuous cycle of doing nothing, going nowhere. I got burnt out from doing nothing.
    Then, when 14, I smoked the herb. All of a sudden, I was enthusiastic and happy and positive and having fun all the time!! I would wake up in the morning and say "Hey, today I'm gonna go off, get good grades in school, make my mom proud so she'll be cool with me smoking weed, and then go smoke weed with all my newly acquired friends and see where the day takes me!!"
    On the weekends, I would actually have fun hanging out with friends and smoking up instead of sitting at home doing nothing, going nowhere. It actually motivated me to get good grades so I could continue to smoke. And so that I could go have a successful life.
    I honestly think marijuana saved my life. If I continued on the path I was heading before I took that first hit off that blunt, I would of ended up dropping out of high school and probably killing myself.
     
  18. I know what your kinda talking about here. When i smoke for a while (couple times a day for a week or two) i start to feel insane too..even when im off of it. its weird. If i stop for a week or so i go back to normal. But i understand what your geting at, dont abuse it too much.
     
  19. #19 mrsoft47, Jan 1, 2010
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    cool well i'm just trying to help. and yes there are many many many more knowledgeable people on both sides of the fence, and that's what makes life interesting. Peace:wave:

    Also to anyone found more links,
    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090325132328.htm (European Journal Of Psych researcher)

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/02/050223162643.htm

     
  20. Really good post, and I think that if things do go to court, that things will be determined on a case to case basis, and can go either way. About that schizo stuff, my grandmothers sister had it. Does this effect the probability of me getting it in any large way?
     

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