Britain names 19 suspects in terror plot!

NealCaffery · Aug 12, 2006

Wow..

Britain names 19 suspects in terror plot as Pakistan announces 5 new arrests

Fri Aug 11, 11:41 AM

By Robert Barr - BOBBERT?! LMAO
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LONDON (AP) - British officials on Friday identified 19 of the 24 suspects accused of planning to blow up U.S.-bound aircraft in the biggest terrorist plot to be uncovered since 9-11, while investigators probed their movements, background and finances.

Five Pakistanis have also been arrested in Pakistan as suspected "facilitators" of the plot, a government official said, in addition to two Britons arrested there about a week ago.

British police have arrested 24 people suspected of involvement in the plot. At least one was reportedly a woman with a small child; two others were converts to Islam. One of the suspects reportedly worked at Heathrow Airport.

The Bank of England said it had frozen the accounts of 19 people arrested Thursday. The men, ranging in age from 17 to 35, had names of Muslim origin, many of them common in Pakistan.

Investigators, describing a plot on the scale of the Sept. 11 attacks, said the planners sought to use common electronic devices to detonate liquid explosives to bring down as many as 10 planes.

The bombs were to be assembled on the aircraft, apparently with peroxide-based solution and everyday carry-on items such as a disposable camera or a music player, two American law enforcement officials told The Associated Press. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Britain asked that no information be released.

A U.S. law enforcement official in Washington said at least one martyrdom tape was found during raids across England on Thursday. Such a tape, as well as the scheme to strike a range of targets at roughly the same time, is a hallmark of al-Qaida.

British Home Secretary John Reid said Britain was grateful for Pakistan's co-operation and that officials believed the main suspects were in custody. However, the threat level in the U.K. remained at "critical," the highest level.

Agents in Pakistan arrested at least seven people, including two British nationals of Pakistani origin who provided information on the terror plot, a senior government official said Friday. The arrests were made in the eastern city of Lahore and in Karachi, the official said on condition of anonymity because he did not have the authority to speak formally on the issue.

The Guardian newspaper, citing unidentified British government sources, said after the first two arrests were made in Pakistan, a message was sent to Britain telling the plotters: "Do your attacks now." That message was intercepted and decoded earlier this week, The Guardian said.

A U.S. congressman briefed by intelligence officials, who did not want to be identified because of the sensitivity of the investigation, said U.S. intelligence had intercepted terrorist chatter.

Authorities pressed ahead Friday with efforts to smash the purported terror ring. Two U.S. officials said British, U.S. and Pakistani investigators were trying to trace the steps of the suspects in Pakistan and determine whether some of them attended terrorist training camps there.

Police would not say where the suspects were being held - which is not unusual in highly sensitive cases - but terrorist suspects are usually brought to the high-security Paddington Green police station, in central London.

British law permits terrorist suspects to be interrogated for up to 28 days without being charged, although after the first 48 hours court permission is required for further detention.

Meanwhile, airline passengers faced a second day of disruptions and disappointment as airports struggled to restore flight schedules.

"It is going to be another difficult day today, both for airports and for passengers, but there is cause for optimism that we will get more flights off today," said Stephen Nelson, chief executive of British Airports Authority, which runs Britain's major airports.

At Heathrow, Europe's busiest airport, around 70 per cent of flights were running, and most inbound flights arrived on time, although flights from the United States - which increased security measures in the wake of the threat - were heavily delayed.
The raids in Britain on Thursday followed a months-long investigation, but U.S. intelligence officials said authorities moved quickly after learning the plotters hoped to stage a practice run within two days, with the actual attack expected just days after that.
The test run was designed to see whether the plotters would be able to smuggle the needed materials aboard the planes, the officials said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
Targeted were United, American and Continental Airlines flights from Britain to major U.S. destinations, which counterterrorism officials said probably included New York, Los Angeles and Washington.
A British police official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the investigation, said the suspects were "homegrown," though it was not immediately clear if all were British citizens.
"These people were born and brought up in the United Kingdom. Some of them may have parents who were immigrants from Pakistan," said Tariq Azim Khan, Pakistan's Minister of State for Information.
The raids were carried out at homes in London, the nearby town of High Wycombe and in Birmingham, in central England. Police still guarded homes in High Wycombe, where the Muslim community expressed outrage that their community and children have been thrust into the international spotlight.
"They are considered ordinary British Muslims and they haven't caused any harm to anyone," accountant Mohammed Naeem said of the suspects. "They come from decent families."
Naeem said the Muslim community supports efforts to promote security, but that the police have acted on faulty intelligence in the past. He cited a recent raid in London in which police were forced to apologize for shooting an innocent Muslim man.
Many of the suspects arrested in Britain were said to be British Muslims, and neighbours said at least two were converts to Islam.
Imtiaz Qadir, of the Waltham Forest Islamic Association, said one of the suspects was a woman in her 20s who had a six-month-old child. "They have taken the child too, because it needs to be with its mother."
Neighbours identified another suspect as Don Stewart-Whyte, 21, from High Wycombe, a convert who changed his name to Abdul Waheed.
"He converted to Islam about six months ago and grew a full beard," said a neighbour, who refused to be identified. "He used to smoke weed and drink a lot, but he is completely different now."
Ibrahim Savant of Walthamstow, one of the names on the Bank of England list, was a convert formerly known as Oliver, neighbours said.
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Rasta_Man · Aug 12, 2006

Another manufactured terror scam perpetuated by the neo-con propaganda machine. Using fear manipulation to reassure everybody that you get results when you abandon your liberties for security. An attempt to quell doubt in the general public that we indeed do need to be in the middle-east killing muslims and blowing holes in Mesopotamia.

Asserting domestic tryanny for the sake of our security. Because I'm sure unlike the masterminds of 9/11 and the London bombsing, these guys have no connection to CIA or MI6.

And it worked like a charm. They get exactly what they want. More police state. More war. It's odd how these terrorists choose to strike only when it benefits the Bush and Blair administrations.

Canada experiences an identical indicent in Canada with the "Canadian Terror Plot" and ensuing media-frenzy. Then all of a sudden our countries armed forces are in Afghanistan, a war which the vast majority of Canadians fought hard not to be a part of.

This is also reaffriming "home grown" terrorism. That's right, they're now making enemies and insurgents out of their own people. Where do they draw the line of terrorism? Am I a terrorist for speaking out against these fascist government with an upmost totaltarian approach to domestic control? Are you a terrorists for smoking pot? How about for speeding? Well if you are, then you are no longer subject to any of your U.S. of Canadian Consitutional rights, or MANY of your other basic human rights.

NealCaffery · Aug 12, 2006

True Dat...I hate how our soldiers are over there, for no reason..24 soldiers i think have been killed for nothing..

Wilseph · Aug 12, 2006

br3ad_ said:

True Dat...I hate how our soldiers are over there, for no reason..24 soldiers i think have been killed for nothing..
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are you talking about Iraq? cuz if you are, you forgot a couple zero's at the end of that number.

mistertr1ck · Aug 12, 2006

fuck terrorist bombers!

holla.

bread... represent

Spanishfly · Aug 12, 2006

Wilseph said:

are you talking about Iraq? cuz if you are, you forgot a couple zero's at the end of that number.
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The guy is talking about Canadian troops.

Spanishfly · Aug 12, 2006

These particular terrorists are Muslims with British citizenship. I trust that they will be charged with treason and be banged up for a VERY long time.

A few decades ago they would have been hanged - shame they canÂ´t be now.

A few centuries ago they would have been publicly hung, drawn and quartered - now that would be a crowd pleaser.

chronictoker · Aug 12, 2006

Rasta_Man said:

Another manufactured terror scam perpetuated by the neo-con propaganda machine. Using fear manipulation to reassure everybody that you get results when you abandon your liberties for security. An attempt to quell doubt in the general public that we indeed do need to be in the middle-east killing muslims and blowing holes in Mesopotamia.

Asserting domestic tryanny for the sake of our security. Because I'm sure unlike the masterminds of 9/11 and the London bombsing, these guys have no connection to CIA or MI6.

And it worked like a charm. They get exactly what they want. More police state. More war. It's odd how these terrorists choose to strike only when it benefits the Bush and Blair administrations.

Canada experiences an identical indicent in Canada with the "Canadian Terror Plot" and ensuing media-frenzy. Then all of a sudden our countries armed forces are in Afghanistan, a war which the vast majority of Canadians fought hard not to be a part of.

This is also reaffriming "home grown" terrorism. That's right, they're now making enemies and insurgents out of their own people. Where do they draw the line of terrorism? Am I a terrorist for speaking out against these fascist government with an upmost totaltarian approach to domestic control? Are you a terrorists for smoking pot? How about for speeding? Well if you are, then you are no longer subject to any of your U.S. of Canadian Consitutional rights, or MANY of your other basic human rights.
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I guess, but do we really have any basic human rights? I mean man invented those. There really is no such thing as "natural" rights of man. We manufactured them. I totally see your points as valid rm, btw, idk what I'm trying to say really.

I think this stuff's (foiling bullshit "terror" plots) pretty silly and to be avoided as much as possible for everybody's sake. The War on Terror kinda (not exactly or anything) reminds me of the Cold War, and the patriot act/ Cod Red/Orange terror alert foiled terror plots bullshit Reminds me of The Red Scare.

motion · Aug 12, 2006

br3ad_ said:

Robert Barr - BOBBERT?! LMAO
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Haha I was thinking the same thing.

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