Blades, As I predicted a just a few days ago, the Obama administration is on the brink of total ruin. Breaking news: India, China walk out of climate summit: Report - dnaindia.com China and India have "taken a united stand" and have literally walked out of the Copenhagen talks together. And even the openly left leaning UK Guardian is regarding Obama as a total failure Barack Obama's speech disappoints and fuels frustration at Copenhagen | Environment | guardian.co.uk A Presidency in Ruins.
? Prove any of this is his fault. He inherited the presidency from Bush so he didn't have shit to work with obviously. He's not God.
I don't understand. Are you suggesting that Obama should have essentially ceded US sovereignty to pander to a select group of individuals about an issue which is largely debated, in an effort to mandate regulations of the sort that would have negative global effects on the economy at large, and every citizen of the US without the expressed approval of the Congress, let alone the American people?
It's never any Presidents fault that the country got ruined..because they aren't the ones making the deicisions. They are just the front men aka poster boys who act and try to sound smart by talking alot while throwing money at you.
THis^^^^ + REP man. To the OP- Did you know that Obama is president of the USA and not the UN. Obama can't snap a finger and make the rest of the world abide by a reduction in Greenhouse gasses. All Obama can do is argue the side of Americans in hopes to reach a legally binding treaty. What part of the Americann position are you against on this issue? Should we have pledged more money or what in IYHO?
and the rest of us can breath a sigh of relief that the NWO/AGW truthers (credit to AugustWest ) have fumbled the ball on this one.
in my opinion, they shouldnt even be having these talks because as we have all already established, alot of the todays data on climate change is less than accurate, and it can't even be proven that it exists anymore. so why are we even having these debates? because people want more money. and theyve got the world fooled with this global warming/climate change bullshit.
Yes, America. With this debt we are in we shouldn't be throwing money around. 10b is a lot of money. But fuck it right? If Hugo Chavez and some environmentalists don't like us then maybe we should throw 100b into it right? Other countries will match our efforts, right?
Obama did not go over there for the American people, he went to support globalism. These global con artists are coming up with plans such as having us borrow money from China only to give it right back in climate reparations. Another plan has Saudi Arabia limiting oil sales to the US, but forcing us to pay the Saudis climate reparations for the oil that we don't buy. I honestly think a lot of people are down right stupid to fall for any of this crap. It is good for America when Obama fails.
Policy doesn't change from administration to administration... this would one to conclude that the administration plays little part in policy.
Agreed. They are upset because he showed some balls and didn't buy into their requests. I respect that. Like as if climate change is a fucking fact anyways. It's the most debatable issue out there now.
Yeah, I think "showing some balls" has nothing to do with it. Did you actually listen to his speech at copenhagen? It was disgusting, It was basically a 10 minute speech saying that the science is settled (no it's not, and he wasn't even planning on going to copenhagen until it was all-hands-on-deck for ClimateGate Damage Control. Heres a rebutal: The science is NOT settled, we do NOT know the extent of the problem or even if one exists at all, and COP15 was historic only in that it was the first COP to be attended by a black US president, and it was the year when the truth about non-climate change, and year the average citizen realized that scientists are people too who have agendas and bias, and who apparently are willing to risk their credibility to perpetuate a lie. Other than that yeah, he's pretty spot on. Ultimately Obama didn't make a commitment because it will never make it through the senate, his popularity is dropping by the day and he's used all his political capital jamming the "stimulus" flop down our throats.
If you dont buy into the climate gate "conspiracy" even though it has shown definitive proof of tampering and misinformation to fit an agenda, then question the obvious fact that the IPCC funds all of the "science" and "research" that goes into their claims and primarily uses one university in Canada to gather data, how fucking stupid do you have to be to not think the data is biased to fit a pre determined agenda! Its for your good thats why they are discussing a carbon trading scheme, right