Bobby Jindal 2012

Discussion in 'Politics' started by sativamonk78, Feb 18, 2009.

  1. #21 sativamonk78, Feb 20, 2009
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    1. Look I don't support the patriot act, I just feel until I am actually done dismay towards it, it does not warrant my full decision deciding on a candidate. Given the choice I would vote for Paul for stuff like this and his tough fiscal stance. Given the choice between Bobby and Obama, I would choose Bobby. I never realized when I voted for Obama, what his entire stimulus encompassed, I heard the internet part and I love that part. Arguably the Americas fastest growing companies have been around the internet the past couple of years. Then you hear about the earmarks and I keep on reading it, it is basically Cainsien economics which I highly disagree with. It basically just dump trucking a load of cash into the hole and hopeing it circulates around to unjar the gears. That isn't how you run an economy, and it only creates an inflated since a things being ok when they really aren't.
    2. If memory serves me correctly Paul himself supports abortion, he talked in detail of being a doctor and seeing what they did babies that were aborted late. It left a feeling in his stomach or something to that effect. All I remember really is he talked negatively of abortions, as for him saying he apposes the federal government enforcing abortions, that is obvious, he apposes almost everything for the federal government having power over anything. As for the castration, the point of that is to stop repeat offenders and to detour future offenders, I don't know if I would vote for that myself, but I don't lose any respect for the man supporting it.
    3.Doesn't the US military still support flogging? I don't get how pain now is considered inhuman, like we live by some special code. History will show every time man trys to further itself from nature and how nature goes about doing things it fails horribly. That is why capitalism is still a better system than communims, and will continue to be so. Nature has been doing things for millions of years, it is more efficient than we are at doing things, we would do better if we took note from nature more.
     
  2. Ron paul does not support abortion at all but he will leave to the states.
     
  3. There's a poem commonly attributed to a German pastor imprisoned in Dachau during WWII:

    I look at civil liberties as an issue that affects all of us. Laws like the PATRIOT ACT are usually pushed through in the name of safety and are then used to tighten the screws on the general populace. If your right to sue for a writ of habeas corpus is suspended, as in the MCA in the case of enemy combatants, then there's almost no legal recourse you can take. The government can literally do what they like to you because you don't have the right to challenge your own detention before a judge. There's a great case of this happening with Native Americans: I'm too tired now to describe it in full but if you like you can take a look at how the U.S. jerked the Ponca nation around and imprisoned chiefs for basically nothing because the default assumption was that Indians had no right to habeas corpus. Especially take a look at Standing Bear v. Crook.

    I'd rather encroachments on civil liberties were nipped in the bud early before they harmed too many people, as is wont to happen when you give the people in power too much leeway with your rights. I don't have to be personally harmed by any of those pieces of legislation to think they're an offense to a free society and shouldn't be supported. While it's far from the single deciding issue when I look at a candidate it certainly plays a role and I definitely don't like to see a pattern of someone voting to curtail civil liberties for anyone.
    I just think it crosses a line. I can't think of castrating sex offenders without also thinking of chopping off thieves' hands in Riyadh...

    If we're still on the subject of castration, the pain isn't my problem. We're not in the middle ages anymore, thank god, and we can put people under for the procedure. (And chemical castration actually doesn't impair the functioning of sexual organs, it suppresses libido so you don't have any desire to use them)

    The military is a special case. Part of the deal with joining the military is that you hand in a good number of your rights because it's is a rigidly hierarchical structure which can't accommodate much personal freedom. Under the law pertaining to civilians, the 8th amendment prohibits that kind of punishment.
     
  4. From what I know about him so far, he just seems like a neo-con with a lot of energy, intelligence, and a very very tiny Libertarian streak. Maybe he would be a good opponent for Obama in the next election, but he would basically have to start campaigning in some sense right now. Obama started campaigning at the 2004 Democratic National Convention with the speech he gave, and he was able to build on the enthusiastic reaction throughout his campaign. Jindal would have to do something similar because like Obama four years ago, people don't know much about him and what he believes. Not to mention Louisiana is like the Chicago of the South when it comes to corruption, but maybe he's an honest guy.
     

  5. That is a damn shame. Animals would go eye-for-an-eye if they felt revengeful impunity like certain human beings.
     
  6. #26 sativamonk78, Feb 20, 2009
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    There are times when the first Amendment is not in play, like yelling fire in a crowded theater, people are likely to get killed. As for a sex offender, people are likely to be scared for like, and possibly killed, is that no enough to not follow the 8th amendment to a tee? There are cases when you give up your rights in the constitution when you do something detrimental to society.

    Even after that amendment was written they pain as a punishment did not cease to exist, just because the 8th Amendment says it does not make it absolute. How about children spanking there children? That is a very effective way of teaching a child no and is still most likely the most highly used method, is that middle age type of parenting? No it's not, and if I got to hear that again I am going to pull my hair out, I don't support it directly, but I understand it's purpose, and there fore in my mind it does not need to be undermined as such.

    You know how I truly feel about the patriot act, before the patriot act the government spyed on me and I did not know. Now after the patriot act, the government spys on me and I do not know. Instead no there is a bill that say they can, when all actuality they did it before. I love that German quote, and if there was any country America could get best comparison to in Europe it would be Germany, but we are not germany.

    In America it would go along these lines.

    First they went after the Indians.
    Then one day they stopped.

    Second they went after the negros.
    Then one day they stopped.

    Then they went after the socialists.
    After that wages went up and the weekend was born.

    Now they look at me.
    Like they always did, but they tell me they are doing it now.
     
  7. Regarding the castration bit, I would think there are much better and effective punishments to try first...
     
  8. Ron Paul is God ftw. There is no debating that.

    The last true American, and something to brag about in the name of humanity!
     

  9. I'll be better then ron paul. :cool:;):p:D:smoke:
     

  10. I hope you at least have a cool gimmick like him too.

    rEVOLution!
     
  11. #31 sativamonk78, Feb 21, 2009
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    Talk about gimmicks.

    This one got 40 some odd million to chant it religiously like some monkeys.

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  12. lol Did Obama win or lose again? And here I was thinking he was the 44th president.

    "What a klutz I am." - Calvin
     
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    What item has more charisma than Bobby Jindal?

    A. A sack of dead tuna
    B. The other half of John Wayne Bobbitt's dick
    C. A paralyzed mime
    D. Cement
     
  14. #34 sativamonk78, Feb 25, 2009
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    What experience got Obama into office?

    His charisma.

    Maybe if we could get a merge between Bobby Jindal and Obama, we could witness the greatest leader America ever seen.

    /sarcasm

    Face it, your nitpicking at the fact Jindal stole your boys fire tonight, and people are actually talking about republicans, when they should be raving over the great change.
     
  15. bobby jindal is a damn clown yo

    it always ends up whoever got 2nd place in the last primary is the nominee

    so if history tells us anything itll be that damn clown mitt romney yo
     
  16. #36 sativamonk78, Feb 25, 2009
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    Sauce.

    Look bro, talking all that jive don't make your logic any more true, I highly doubt the 2nd place in the primary gets the nomination. I doubt Mitt Romney will even run in 2012.
     

  17. I doubt the election of 2012 will even be able to be figured out until 2012.

    Maybe we should handle right now?
     
  18. Like Gary Busey says,

    "The past is history, the future a mystery, but now is a precious because it is known as the present."

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  19. Yeah, there is no way in hell Bobby Jindal has a shot at 2012 presidency. He's a bozo for sure.
     

  20. Why? Who else would there be? Sarah Palin?


    Here's what'll happen, if Obama turns this economy around he wins re-election. If he doesn't then it will be a tight race no matter who he goes against because he is going to be easier to attack.

    Just my speculation but no matter who would have issued the GOP response they would have been marginalized by everyone on the left.
     

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