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Big beautiful...wilting plant. Wtf? Help!

Discussion in 'Hydroponic Growing' started by Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019.

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  1. #1 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    So I have been nursing this one plant since November when it was basically a big stick with a leaf sticking out of it. Since then it eventually developed into a very nice healthy 5’ plant with over 12 top nodes and a few weeks ago I finally transferred it into my flowering room. It progressed beautifully, starting flowers all over, etc.

    A few days ago, out of nowhere, it started drooping a little and has been wilting more and more each day. Most of the leaves are hanging vertically now and the flowers refuse to turn up towards the light. It’s not really drinking water either. Plant is in a DWC setup. All the levels are well within range- ph, temp, ppm, etc. I flushed the water yesterday anyway cuz I didn’t know what else to do, but nothing changed. The only thing I can think of is that somehow the roots got torn from the stem inside the basket or something. The plant had to be supported etc cuz of its weird and large shape. But I was always gentle with it.

    Wtf is going on here?? Why would this big healthy plant just stop and die? I mean it looks like it needs to be watered - except it’s practically submerged in water.

    Insight?
     
  2. #2 Gelato41, Jan 26, 2019
    If it happened suddenly and affecting your entire plant it sounds like something with the res/roots. Are the roots white? Are they brown? Slime? Any smells around root mass or res? Any change in how your mixing your nutes or water source?
     
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  3. #3 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    Yep it’s affecting the entire plant. Roots are off white just due to using GH nutes. They look perfectly healthy, no slime, mold, smells, etc. Nothing has changed in terms of water (RO) or nutes (simple 3 part flora GH). It’s totally baffling and unbelievably frustrating especially with what I’ve been through with this plant.
     
  4. #4 Progrouk, Jan 26, 2019
    Pictures speak a thousand words buddy
     
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  5. #5 Gelato41, Jan 26, 2019
    Hmm that’s really odd. I’m pretty stumped here. Only things left to consider is water temp and ph meter being wrong causing lockout. I like to have a bottle of the liquid ph test for situations like this. Just a simple fool proof way to double check ph meter if something seems off.
     
  6. #6 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    B8A60371-7D92-4B1E-ACA8-94DF63124C7B.jpeg Yea water and ph, etc have been checked and checked and rechecked. There are 20+ other plants that have been prepared the same way with all the same stuff and none of them are doing this.
     
  7. #7 MickFoster, Jan 26, 2019
    Are you sure your airstone is working properly?
     
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  8. #8 Progrouk, Jan 26, 2019
    Yes that's no water issue roots starved of oxygen buddy imo
     
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  9. #9 trojangrower, Jan 26, 2019
    Roots and/or heat shock.
    Could also be the air/water connector has fouled, make sure its dripping.
     
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  10. #10 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    I stopped using air stones a while ago cuz they get clogged and reduce air flow, oxygen. Now the air lines go straight in the water. It is working perfectly. There are multiple lines coming out of the same pump into other buckets, etc and they are not having any problems.
     
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  11. #11 trojangrower, Jan 26, 2019
    and how do the roots look?
     
  12. #12 trojangrower, Jan 26, 2019
    check the base of the stalk for strange stretch marks or scars too
     
  13. #13 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    The roots look fine. Nice and healthy. The only thing I can think of is the roots somehow got torn from the stem deep inside the basket, but I can only dig out the hydroton so much so I can’t really see if this is true without disturbing it way more and possibly causing more damage.
     
  14. #14 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    It is not uptaking any water.
     
  15. #15 trojangrower, Jan 26, 2019
    yea, might be fusarium. that's why I asked to investigate the stalk, but sometimes its deep. I lost a plant last month. something similar happened.
     
  16. #16 Greengrower8, Jan 26, 2019
    Lame.
    There is nothing usual about the stem/stalk that I can see.
     
  17. #17 Papa Puff, Jan 27, 2019
    Bugs in roots or mold/pm first 2 things I would look at???

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  18. #18 mactheman, Jan 27, 2019
    could you cut a small stem off the lower plant and look inside the stem to see if its white or got any brown inside the [plant ,,,mac,,
     
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  19. #19 Papa Puff, Jan 27, 2019
    Yes the old rot!! How I doing Mr Mac??

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  20. #20 Papa Puff, Jan 27, 2019
    How are u?

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