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Discussion in 'Growing Marijuana Outdoors' started by IndicaDominance, Aug 10, 2012.
What is the best liquid feed for dense nugs?
That is like asking what is the best gym shoe. U will get a million different answers. Organic synthetic folier feed top dressing home brews genetics. The possibilities are endless. U got alot of reading to do.
i guess i should have rephrased it. Im looking for other options who other people have had good experiences with.
[quote name='"sgtstadanko"']That is like asking what is the best gym shoe. U will get a million different answers. Organic synthetic folier feed top dressing home brews genetics. The possibilities are endless. U got alot of reading to do.[/quote]
Just go to a hydro/organic gardening store and ask them what organics are on special.
[quote name='"IndicaDominance"']i guess i should have rephrased it. Im looking for other options who other people have had good experiences with.[/quote]
With what. Organic synthetics. Fox farm advance nuits. We don't know what u are running. Do u have a great supper soil u might not need to add much. Are u using shitty mg dirt.
Also there is no magic juice that will make our plants dense. Its all about light to. U can do everything right and not get enough light I still get lighter fluffy buds. It's personal preference and how much money u want to spend.
I use the Botonicare line of nutrients. Love them.
Genetics, sun exposure, and root mass will effect density way more than what type of bottled nute you chose.
I've been happy with the roots organic line. Organic is always best. And I've been using the silica blast from botanicare as well. I'll have to wait until harvest time before I know how dense my buds will be though. Last year I used FF and the density varied quite a bit from strain to strain.
sun = number 1
i used biocanna (flow and veg)
but now i only use solid nutes (manures -horse, chicken-, kelp, guano) I place in soil in advance (cheaper and easier). 1/4 total volume is nutes.
then top dress once every 2 weeks
could u buy a bag of guano and top dress right out of bag or do u have to let it sit out first
could u buy a bag of guano and top dress right out of bag or do u have to let it sit out first[/quote]
Check out old porks grow journal. He top dresses with it all the time and his plants look great. I don't think he let's it site first but you should ask him.
I use compost teas combined with built soil and right before flower I spike in four places with half kelp meal and half bone meal plus some high p guano and crushed oyster shell plus some dio earth. Most people aren't aware that a cannabis plant if grown solid through veg has enough p to take it through half of the flowering cycle before its depleted.
ok ill check old porks thread out thanks mjmama
could you reccomend a nice top dressing for containers for plants in bloom, something light, I also feed..
I have been growing auto flowers through out the season they seemed to like the molasses and big bloom by fox farm the best for pluming them up, im aslo having sucess with maxibloom plus its cheap
[quote name='"mike trich"']
could you reccomend a nice top dressing for containers for plants in bloom, something light, I also feed..[/quote]
I would use some high P bat guano and maybe a little kelp. The kelp has some N, very little P, and some K. Using mostly guano with a little kelp should give you a good NPK ratio that's mostly P with a little of the N/K. Then watering in a little molasses would boost the K levels.
That's my plan anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong.
yes that's what I do. I also have guano in the soil mix at the very bottom from the start.
as mjmama wrote, high P bat guano, kelp are great to top dress for flowering. I also always add a few handfuls of horse manure + castings for some N. I like my plants to be green until the end (I don't bother with "flushing").
To top dress, I don't just lay it on the soil but dig a few inches on the edges of the pot or hole and place handfuls there. I feel roots ripping when I do so so the roots can access easier and I don't have to depend on rain and watering. Guano, kelp, horse, castings won't burn so you can go heavily with them. I use 10 big handfuls per plant when top dressing I lay around the edges (not over the root ball).
Teas (guano, molasses) are also good but I never do them anymore but would if my plants were at home (optional). Liquid feeding is too expensive and really unnecessary imo (better to have most of the nutes in from the beginning, 1/5 of the volume is nutes so for 40 gallons of soil I have 8 gallons of nutes: castings, horse, towards top, chicken, guano (high P, you can use high N which is very good too for veg), kelp, and some slow release all purpose ferts at the bottom).
thanks corto, so lemme get this right.. buy a bag of high p quano, and mix in some castings 50\50 and a little horse manure, work into edges around top of root ball? maybe ten good handfulls on 100 gallon container? I'm already feeding with a seafood kelp combo..
I apparently need to spread some rep around before giving you anymore. But thanks for the great post.
I've been learning sooo dang much this season, I can't wait till next year to put it all to use. It's really fun learning more about organics and gardening in general.
you're welcome mjmama
miketrich, yes I have 40 gallon pots so for 100 you can add maybe 20 handfuls on the sides (dig a few inches before placing so the plant gets it faster). 50% high p guano + kelp, 50% castings + horse (in mid July), then in mid August just guano and kelp for a second topping (you can add some veg nutes also but less).
But if you have lots of nutes inside, you can top dress less or not even top dress at all. This year my soil was lighter so I dressed heavily to be sure they didn't go pale on me. As long as you got water, sun and enough food, you'll have big healthy plants.