Austro-libertarian/AnCap/Market Anarchist circle jerk thread

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Kylesa, Mar 24, 2011.

  1. The fact that everyone who uses weed is anything but a libertarian/AnCap honestly confuses me a bit... how can the idea that the government has no right to take the fruits of your labour not naturally follow from the government cant regulate your behavior.
     


  2. I kinda feel bad for her. Its like her whole passion is misguided. But thats only me opinion ....

    " and like ..... one percent other stuff"
     
  3. I honestly thought her idea was kind of clever. It's workable, but it's not a get rich quick scheme. I could see vendors in popular tourist towns selling bottles of their air. "Paris air" for $10? You could sucker a lot of people, me thinks. Definitely not a get rich quick scheme, or an idea to invest in though... lulz.
     
  4. These ideas all logically follow from self-ownership and property rights.
     

  5. Hell, if people bought pet rocks...they'll buy a jar of air. Her presentation was just awful though.

    Also, on her chart of percentages on what air consists of...If I remember correctly, it totaled 103%. :p
     
  6. 78% nitrogen
    21% oxygen
    1% other stuff
    6% energy

    Her math seems sound. :p:D;)
     
  7. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmH3xCpOSW8]YouTube - Daniel Wu Infomercial for "Fresh Air" (Clean Air Network)[/ame]

    (sorry, I needed something to get that unfortunate woman out of my head)
     

  8. Exactly... I dont understand how someone who has a strong idea of self ownership (anyone willing to break the law for the sake of using an illegal drug) can not fall on the liberty side of things
     

  9. :hello:

    Who knows man...usually the progressive leftist statists are the first ones to point out that THEY are smarter than you...perhaps that's all the justification they need to shit on EVERYONE else's rights?

    On here, most of the posts where people side with statism rather than individualism/Liberty...the people posting seem to be in or around college aged, heavily influenced by the propaganda they've enjoyed throughout their entire public education, and thrive on liberal professors that continue the indoctrination.

    Critical thinking, and studying of history, need not apply when making decisions. Doing what FEELS right, at the time, is all that matters...unintended consequences be damned. Collectivism > individualism, because clearly, they know what's best, for you.
     
  10. Couldn't agree more... I am a college student and I can attest to most liberals my age being good willed people misguided by idiots.its exactly why I helped start/run a young americans for liberty chapter....waking people up.

    Once people see that its not good hearted liberals vs greedy republicans and it is in fact both ideologies vs personal liberty well start to see some real change.
     
  11. Hey, a buddy of mine and I just started a YAL chapter at my university to open people up to the ideas of liberty. There are lot of us out there it seems. :smoke:
     
  12. #32 JackDonaghy, Mar 27, 2011
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    is a group of political philosophies that promote a non-hierarchical, non-bureaucratic, stateless society without private property in the means of production. Libertarian socialism is opposed to all coercive forms of social organization, and promotes free association in place of government and opposes what it sees as the coercive social relations of capitalism

    .......Libertarian socialists generally place their hopes in decentralized means of direct democracy such as libertarian municipalism, citizens' assemblies, trade unions and workers' councils.[10]

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    Compromise with us lefties, We will be this, well i can only speak for myself.
     
  13. Leave us righties alone and we will leave you alone. :smoke: And yes, like you said, I can only speak for myself, but I think that most of us Austro-libertarians/ancaps in this thread would agree.
     

  14. Good to hear man:hello:
    ...we technically started last year with 2 members but were finally official...school fought us pretty hard but we just didnt go away. We are now the biggest political group on campus....
    I learned quick that the best way to do events is how I ran our first one.
    Tell the school were doing a bake sale to raise money
    do a baked sale to raise money and hand out information about the drug war.
     
  15. I feel like you're in the exact same situation as me.

    We're running our first event this Wednesday. We built a giant debt clock today and we're going to showcase it on Wednesday to raise awareness about the national debt and try and recruit new members. We've been officially recognized by the school, but there was a lot of red tape. After this event, we will be the most active political group on campus.

    We thought about doing a baked sale on 4/20 to spread awareness about poor drug policy, but we're not allowed to sell or even hand out homemade food because of a rule made when we were freshman. We are still going to do something on April 20th, but we're not sure what yet. We might just set up one of those Operation Politically Homeless Kits to try and recruit.
     
  16. Yea we were in an awful situation but we pretty much just do whatever we want now...were working on a debt clock too. Try to get recognized by YAL we got activism kits and shit.

    Next year is where the fun really starts, I have a ton of crazy ideas that will probably get us in trouble but no one in the group really cares if were officially recognized by the school seeing as they refuse to fund us.... and Id love to do something on 420 too but I have some....personal plans:smoke:

    Thankfully we went with College Republicans to CPAC not as YAL or wed probably be shut down... I kind of caused some trouble there.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTRA8cWBVqY&feature=feedf_more[/ame]
    WOOPS
     

  17. Can you purchase the baked goods and sell them at cost or at a slight profit to cover operating expenses? Or hell, if you believe in the topic enough - give them away at a loss?
     
  18. #38 Arteezy, Mar 27, 2011
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    I think this will probably be discussed at the next meeting (next week). I don't know much about how much pre-packaged brownies cost and how much red tape we'd actually have to go through just to have a cash box on campus. There was a loophole to the cash box regulations we found. We could just accept credit/debit cards and use a card reader that attaches to a smart phone. I wouldn't mind enduring a small monetary loss to get people over to our table on April 20th. I think the cash box regulation was the larger hurdle than getting the brownies though.

    EDIT: Actually, we could only sell Chartwell's brownies on campus since they have a monopoly on catering on campus. That was another piece of red tape we ran into. Believe me man, if we can sell brownies on 4/20 without receiving disciplinary action, we will do it.
     
  19. I dont know how stuff at your school is set up, but we operate on a policy of do what we want and ask permission after. We figure the worst that can happen is we are no longer an official club and they try to stop us from doing things... but we do it anyway because were just college kids on a college campus. When we table to hand out info and talk to people we use my desk (a folding table) and move building to building when we need to.
     
  20. #40 Arteezy, Mar 27, 2011
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    I doubt we could get most of our club to operate like that. I wouldn't mind risking disciplinary action. I don't know how anyone else feels. We're a very new club. Also, as I said, my buddy knows more about the red tape than I do. We may end up eventually not being officially recognized, but for now, we're willing to choose our battles.
     

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