Come noobs come vets come all!Now this is a grow that is for any person who can only get ahold of miracle grow and what to expect from itHaven't most been wondering why there so much bad feedback about using miracle grow and fox farm nutes together. But never see any hard evidence of the entire grow?? Well I am going to dedicate 2 of my plants in this process one plant before potted the miracle grow has been flushed with over 20 gallons of boiling hot water and I would say 60-70% of the little fertilizer balls has been ruptured and drained from the soil. It was a very sickening smell almost made me puke a couple times. I am going to feed this one with a regular feeding schedule. The second I am going to use nutes as well but in a different fashion than most. I will tell how I do this process after the first few weeks of growth. I have been pondering this idea for a few weeks now but this thread is purely for those who are interested and snide, rude, and hating ass comments are no more welcomed than a male in the grow room full of females. So with that being said only constructive feedback questions or just tag along and see what happensWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
This is Jasmine and her soil has been flushed before planted with over 20 gallons of boiling hot water and and fertilizer balls are mostly clearedWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
This is N9na and her soil is straight miracle grow and my own method of madness Why so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
36 likes... member for 3 months.. calls himself senior member.. I used fox farms.. I used miracle grow.. i use neither now... go figure..
Why don't I like Miracle Grow? How about because the company that manufactures it is responsible for DDT, GMO's, Bovine Growth Hormones, Agent Orange, PCB's, trying as much as possible to drive small farmers out of business and trying to dominate the agricultural seed market. Fuck Monsanto with a capital F. Jerry the Miracle Grow HATER.
[quote name="LilJ86" post="19357653" timestamp="1389967080"]36 likes...member for 3 months.. calls himself senior member..I used fox farms..I used miracle grow.. i use neither now...go figure.. [/quote]I don't call my self a senior member Idk how that even got to be like that. I am no where near a pro and I am bored so might as well learn all I can on a first grow than to wait 3-4 grows to learn Why so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
ok, you seem to not be a smart as.. ill give ya a serious answer.. Nothing really WRONG with fox farms. Its what you prefer.. I used there entire 9 piece set, and i thought it left alot to be desired.. as far as using miracle grow.. I used it my first attempt at growing.. before i found GC.. Growers dont like to use miracle grow because of the time released nutrients.. or little "balls" in the mix.. because there time released you never truely know whats in left in the soil after a run. also how do you plan to "flush" these time released nutes? are you going to flush your plant with 20 gallons of boiling water again? Another good reason to not use such a product is exactly as Jerry said.. This company has no interest in the greater good of growing.. there a money hungry conglomerate. end of story.. Can a plant be finished in MG without issue, SURE!
why use miracle grow if you are just going to dump boiling water through it? why not just get some dirt from your yard and do the same? anyway.. good luck w/ your project.
No I am pretty sure I went through this soil with a fine tooth comb so to speak and when I did the flush I noticed the most pugent smell ever and I always let it dry completely and went through my self and sifted out any fertilizer ball I could find. It the only soil I had available plus I have a lot of time on my hand and I always wanna have first hand experience Why so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
Well there are 2 projects one is with the flush mg the other is with plain. I would of got my garden soil. If there wasn't 7 inches of snow over it lolWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
Way to go steath im glad there was some input from other people otger than bashing.. and to be frank to the other posters yes MG is the devil but when its all you have on hand and you flush it with boiling water with no plants in it there is no harm to the plant unless you are dumping boiling water into a pot with plants.. I think its a good guide for people if MG is all they can get ------------------------------- my journals http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1244732-First-cfl-grow-lst-and-topping http://forum.grasscity.com/index.php?/topic/1256772-Sugar-cookie-seed
The flushed miracle grow and after a small feeding of big bloomWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
In regular miracle grow and a light feeding of big bloomWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
Hey man, here is why I think a lot of people on this forum, especially organic soil growers, will disagree with using Miracle Grow as a soil. I think less people are going to disagree with using FoxFarm as it's pretty good for most people. 1) Miracle Grow is ultimately owned by Monsanto, the great devil of modern agriculture world-wide 2) Miracle Grow as a soil is not a great soil for marijuana plants, and contains long-release fertilizers which are pretty shitty anyway 3) You can do a lot better by getting Black Gold, Sunshine Mix, ProMIX, Fox Farm Ocean Forest... yada yada yada for marijuana plants soil-wise 4) You CAN get by and grow weed in Miracle Grow soil no doubt, it is just far from optimal. Anyway, the soil contains a lot of fertilizers already so you definitely don't need to do much extra for a long time with your plants if at all. You're gonna have much better success with other pre-bagged soils. Good luck!
[quote name="NS89" post="19365011" timestamp="1390083490"]Hey man, here is why I think a lot of people on this forum, especially organic soil growers, will disagree with using Miracle Grow as a soil. I think less people are going to disagree with using FoxFarm as it's pretty good for most people.1) Miracle Grow is ultimately owned by Monsanto, the great devil of modern agriculture world-wide2) Miracle Grow as a soil is not a great soil for marijuana plants, and contains long-release fertilizers which are pretty shitty anyway3) You can do a lot better by getting Black Gold, Sunshine Mix, ProMIX, Fox Farm Ocean Forest... yada yada yada for marijuana plants soil-wise4) You CAN get by and grow weed in Miracle Grow soil no doubt, it is just far from optimal.Anyway, the soil contains a lot of fertilizers already so you definitely don't need to do much extra for a long time with your plants if at all. You're gonna have much better success with other pre-bagged soils. Good luck![/quote]This grow is basically a guide for the lowest budget new growers like me and only have access to the bare bottom soil. This for all the cheap growers who can on afford miracle grow and what to expect by using it because I know organic grows are probably cheaper but some people don't have access to all the things required to grow organic. And like I said in the text that interested members should follow or someone who is in the only able to afford shit soil boat. And I appreciate your feedback but my main purpose of this is to hopefully help people that can't afford to buy it can have the medication they need for the lowest price and not have to spend a arm and a leg to follow the trend of modern growers. Because imo I would rather spend 5$ on a bag of soil and get at least 2oz of some decent green over spending 20$ on a bag of ffof and get the same amount of a little better weed. But yes thanks for your input Srry to ramble on but I am pretty high from smoking some marijuana grown with miracle grow. Why so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
Eh, how low budget can you go? I understand that a lot of people want to grow some herb and only have minimal funds to do so... no hate on that whatsoever. Just seems like for multiple reasons Miracle Grow shouldn't be supported as a company either. Whatever the case is, if you don't have much dough to get started and you don't care as much about the end result, then MG is the way to go haha.
[quote name="NS89" post="19365964" timestamp="1390095862"]Eh, how low budget can you go? I understand that a lot of people want to grow some herb and only have minimal funds to do so... no hate on that whatsoever. Just seems like for multiple reasons Miracle Grow shouldn't be supported as a company either. Whatever the case is, if you don't have much dough to get started and you don't care as much about the end result, then MG is the way to go haha. [/quote]Basically all I have in this grow is 8$ that's with perlite and mg. Because I am on a fixed income because I am unemployed in the winter time and have to move in with the folks til summer gets here and I am saving so I can stay on my own. Here is basically my thoughts if I can spend the bare minimum and get a couple of ounces of decent bud its bud that I didn't have and Idk where you can buy a couple ounces for 8$. I could care less about the company as long as it produces I am just selfish I guess lolWhy so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
this guy just wont stop spamming GC lol... this is no less than the 3rd "experiment" he has proposed to put these 2 sprouts through. just grow some pot already brother. Do it the simple way a couple times before you start posting "guides" as you look at the first two sprouts youve ever dealt with. If you flush everything out of MG soil, then it isnt MG soil, and if you are going to feed them then its not going to surprise anyone here if it works just fine, but to most of us, 20 dollars for the right bag beats 10 dollars for a soil we have to spend an hour pouring boiling water through, but thats mostly because most of us arent 14 and make considerably more than 10 dollars an hour. Hate on my attitude all you want lol, but this, and all your threads are absurd. Stop thinking so much and listen to what people tell you. no need to reinvent the wheel before learning how to drive.
[quote name="zippy657" post="19368122" timestamp="1390132578"]this guy just wont stop spamming GC lol... this is no less than the 3rd "experiment" he has proposed to put these 2 sprouts through.just grow some pot already brother. Do it the simple way a couple times before you start posting "guides" as you look at the first two sprouts youve ever dealt with. If you flush everything out of MG soil, then it isnt MG soil, and if you are going to feed them then its not going to surprise anyone here if it works just fine, but to most of us, 20 dollars for the right bag beats 10 dollars for a soil we have to spend an hour pouring boiling water through, but thats mostly because most of us arent 14 and make considerably more than 10 dollars an hour. Hate on my attitude all you want lol, but this, and all your threads are absurd.Stop thinking so much and listen to what people tell you. no need to reinvent the wheel before learning how to drive.[/quote]Sorry to burst your bubble homie but I am 25 and yes this is my first indoor grow. And as of right now yes you do make more money than me because it is winter time and I am unemployed I am a seasonal worker who basically does government road construction in the beginning of the summer and at the end I do landscaping in the fall and when I do work I work in Chicago and rent on a apartment is $1,700 a month more than I bet any of most you because it's temporary. So sir you don't make more money than me I have to spend more to live somewhere in the summer long enough to live somewhat comfortable in the winter. My threads are absurd. Hmmmm well let's see I am pretty sure this is a public thread and you can ask for help or make topics. Nothing is wrote saying that you or any other of the so called vetts have to read any of it or put your 2 cents in. And if you don't like what I post I will give you and a lot of other people some advice that will save you and many others some aggrivation.. if you honestly do not like what post don't read my threads because they are meant for noobs such as myself and the biggest one of all.. get over your Fucking self!!! I am doing what works for (ME) with the only thing available from Walmart because there is snow year round here cause I don't live in Cali brah. So to simplify this For you and also anyone who agrees with this man or woman if you don't like what I have to say stick to your own shit and also if you do decide to comment in a malevolent manor you will get a response a little worse because I have a wonderful vocabulary.. Dickhead!!! Why so serious????? He puts the bong to my mouth!! WHY SO SERIOUS???? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE!!! *bongin* (cough cough)
The problem i have with miracle grow isnt the nutes, it is the compaction and poor aeration. It has the consistency of tree bark mixed with mud. I grow a lot of plants other than mj (26 species outdoors last season), and i wont plant anything i care about much in miracle grow. It just doesnt do as well as decent soil no matter if your growing pansies, pickles, or pot. Im not saying you need to run out and get fox farms, or roots, or other big name soil. There are normally some good low budget options if you look around.