Ok, I am an Atheist and have a question for believer who agree with the title. I've been confronted multiple times by religious people with questions, and there's one that I have an issue with. Not on any o god can't be real level, but on a common sense level. So we atheist believe that the "Universe came from nothing", but where the fuck did god come from? Because the most common answer, that he just is/was/and always will be, basically means he came from nothing, or that he always was so nothing made him, but that's the same fucking thing you just accused me of. Every time I have pointed this out, no one gave me a straight answer. I just don't see how you don't see the connection. Idk to me it's self evident that your answer for how the universe was created by god and that he just is, is the same as my big bang, or that the universe was made from "nothing".