Are we really an atom?

Discussion in 'Science and Nature' started by Worshipthecurry, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. Alright guys and gals, this is my first post and I'm ripped so bear with me please...

    Alright so everyone knows how there is either 2 or 8 valence electrons in an atom right? Ok, now picture our sun, it could be the nucleus for an atom. There is 8 planets that could serve as the valence electrons. So when you really think about as big as we thing our planet is, in reality it could be microscopic to other forms. For all we know we are just in atom in a whole different world. Could our universe be just a system of atoms for something much larger then us?

    once again first post so if i messed up I'm sorry :)
     
  2. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2cmlhfdxuY]YouTube - Powers Of 10[/ame]
     
  3. Only problem with that is that the model of atoms as being little well-defined nuclei with little circular electrons flying around in orbit is wrong.

    It's a convenient lie to tell people, but in reality, the model of how electrons orbit their nuclei looks very little like how the Earth orbits the Sun. For one, we can in principle orbit any distance we like from the Sun. Not so with atoms. For another, if we shift from one orbit to another, we actually traverse the distance from one orbit to the next. Electrons don't. There are other ways the analogy only works superficially but I don't have the time to go into detail.
     
  4. were energy

    e=mc2 .

    energy = everything
     
  5. Did you just throw E = MC2 out? Do you understand this equation?

    I don't know if that was a poor attempt at trying to be smart by throwing out a random equations.
    Einstein's formula tells us the amount of energy this mass would be equivalent to, if it were all suddenly turned into energy. I don't see your the connection between your statement and the actual topic of this thread...

    I'll post up more of an explanation once I get out of this damned programming class...

    Also, the other users are right. Electrons are similar to our solar system moving, but on a MUCH faster scale and much, much tighter to their core than our Earth is to the Sun.

    - SwetnK
     

  6. To paraphrase a quote I have scribbled down somewhere, I believe the true nature of reality to be understood by the greatest minds of our times but also the smallest child. In other words trying to trap the idea of reality in verbal form, especially when it relies on specialised terminology (not 'everyone' knows about valence electrons) is an excersize in futility.

    [imo]
     
  7. Cool thinking but not right information. All atoms do not have 8 or 2 valence electrons those are only the ionic forms of the atom. When they have attracted electrons to complete their outer shells atoms have from 1-8 valence electrons.
     
  8. there is an electron cloud, and electron orbits are not as we define symmetrical orbits like our planets experience (elliptical).

    electrons, more or less, are held by the charged nucleus in place. they are free to move as they please within the electric field of the nucleus. its not like the electrons are circling around the nucleus in one dimensional motion.
     

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