Are Vaporizers More Healthy Than Glass

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  1. #1 AlwaysHi, Aug 4, 2011
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    So I have heard many different views after looking through the different threads, everyone has a different opinion on vaporizers being a healthier choice than bong/glass/joints ect.
    I smoke really everything, I have a Extreme Q, Bong, pipe, bubbler and I smoke joints and blunts when friends come over all the time.
    My Question?

    Is a Vaporizer the most healthy way to consume marijuana?

    I would think it is, mainly because of the lighter fluid in a lighter. Or maybe you get more toxins from straight burning it, rather than vaporizing it into vapor? Is vapor more healthy than smoke?

    What do you think, and I want straight from the textbook facts...

    :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking: :smoking:
  2. o_O

    Vaporizing weed is heating up the cannabinoids. Nothing more nothing less. The only harm so far that you can get from weed, at least that I've heard, is through the damage of combustion. Whenever you burn anything and inhale it into your body, that's damaging. It's why cigarette's cause cancer, if everyone used e-cig's there would be a lot less cancer from tobacco.

    Vaporizing is the method they use in hospitals, it is the mecca of getting stoned.

  3. Fantastic Answer.
    Someone should quote that. :smoke:
  4. I might be trying it tomorrow. How much stronger is the buzz compared to a joint?
  5. Vaporizing is healthy. There is no burning involved, therefore no carcinogens entering into your lungs.
    Other than vaporizing ingesting it orally through tinctures or food is also healthy.
    You can always use the leftovers from vaporizing to make some cookies :)
  6. #7 lwien, Aug 4, 2011
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    NORML -MAPS Study Shows Vaporizers Reduce Toxins in Marijuana Smoke

    Medical marijuana patients may protect themselves from harmful toxins in marijuana smoke by inhaling their medicine using an electric vaporizer, according to results of a study by California NORML and MAPS (Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies).
    The study showed that it is possible to vaporize medically active THC by heating marijuana to a temperature short of the point of combustion, thereby eliminating or substantially reducing harmful smoke toxins that are normally present in marijuana smoke. Vaporizers may therefore substantially reduce what is widely regarded as the leading health hazard of marijuana, namely respiratory harm due to smoking.

    Details of the study are published in D. Gieringer, "Cannabis Vaporization: A Promising Strategy for Smoke Harm Reduction," Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics Vol. 1#3-4: 153-70 (2001). Reprints available for $5 from California NORML, 2215-R Market St. #278, San Francisco CA 94114.

    NORML and MAPS sponsored the study in the hopes of helping medical marijuana patients and others reduce the health risks of smoking. The hazards of smoking were cited as a major obstacle to approval of natural cannabis by the Institute of Medicine in its 1999 report, Marijuana and Medicine. However, the IOM report failed to note the possibility of vaporization.

    The NORML-MAPS study tested a device called the M1 Volatizer®, an aromatherapy vaporizer developed by Alternative Delivery Systems, Inc.( It consisted of an electric heating element in a chamber that radiates heat downwards over a sample of marijuana sitting in a standard pipe or "bong" bowl. Output from the vaporizer was analyzed and compared to smoke produced by combusting the sample with a flame.

    The vaporizer produced THC at a temperature of 185 C. (365 F.) while completely eliminating three measured toxins - benzene, a known carcinogen, plus toluene and naphthalene. Carbon monoxide and smoke tars were both qualitatively reduced by the vaporizer, but additional testing is needed to quantify the extent of the decrease.

    Although the study was not designed to detect the highly carcinogenic tars known as polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which are thought to be a leading culprit in smoking-related cancers, there was good reason to believe that they were suppressed, since they normally form at much higher temperatures of combustion.

    When vaporized, the marijuana emitted a thin gray vapor and was left with a green to greenish-brown "toasted" appearance, whereas the combusted sample produced thick smoke and turned to ash.

    Significant amounts of benzene began to appear at temperatures of 200 C. (392 F), while combustion occurred around 230 (446F) or above. Traces of THC were in evidence as low as 140 C. (284 F).

    Further details of the study will be published in a forthcoming issue of the Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics.

    The vaporizer study was undertaken as a follow-up to a previous NORML-MAPS marijuana smoking device study, which concluded that vaporizers offered the best prospects for smoke harm reduction. The study found that neither waterpipes nor solid filters were effective at reducing exposure to smoke tars, due to the fact that they filtered out even more THC, thus forcing patients to inhale more to achieve the same effective dose. A recent Australian study also found that waterpipes failed to reduce tars or carbon monoxide (Linda Gowing et al., "Respiratory Harms of Smoked Cannabis," Research Monograph No. 8. Adelaide: Drug and Alcohol Services Council of South Australia, 2000).

    Other methods of marijuana smoke harm reduction include oral ingestion and potential new delivery systems, such as inhalers and patches, that are still under development. Smokers may also reduce their respiratory risks by using higher-potency marijuana, allowing them to inhale less smoke to obtain a given effective dose of THC. The medical marijuana popularly used in cannabis patients' clubs is several times more potent than that commonly provided to researchers by the National Institute on Drug Abuse, according to a potency survey by NORML and MAPS. However, the Australian study found that higher potency marijuana does not always deliver more THC, apparently because THC output is highly sensitive to variations in the burning properties of different samples.

    A wide variety of vaporizers are presently available on the underground market. Many medical marijuana patients say they prefer vaporizers because they deliver smoother, less irritating medication. However, there have been no published scientific studies of their effectiveness heretofore.

    NORML and MAPS are currently seeking support for further research and development of vaporizers. Tax-deductible donations to the vaporizer research project can be made through the NORML Foundation c/o California NORML, 2215-R Market St #278, San Francisco CA 94114 (415) 563-5858.

    CA NORML Health Information
  7. The high from a vape isn't stronger than the high from smoking. It is very different, though. Have fun! :smoke:
  8. vaping is alot more healthier because it doesn't cause combustion, vaping heats up to 180 degrees, while lighting your bong or joint can heat up to 1200, with vaping, you're eliminating all the toxins and nasty stuff
  9. Vaping is MUCH healthier, different high tho kinda clearer.
  10. You're pretty much right. Let me first just say vaporizing weed is definitely the safest way to consume cannabis. When you smoke anything, your cilia in your lungs get damaged (like what you said). Tobacco and its additives have over 20 carcinogens that cause cancer in humans, cannabis has 0. So although when you smoke marijuana and your cilia hairs get damaged, there are no carcinogens to invade into your lungs, unlike smoked tobacco.
  11. #12 lwien, Aug 4, 2011
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    This quote from the study above seems to contradict what you just said:

    "The vaporizer produced THC at a temperature of 185 C. (365 F.) while completely eliminating three measured toxins - benzene, a known carcinogen, plus toluene and naphthalene. Carbon monoxide and smoke tars were both qualitatively reduced by the vaporizer, but additional testing is needed to quantify the extent of the decrease."
  12. /thread
  13. The high from a vape I find doesn't last as long, but that may be me blending the high and the burnout of smoking as compared to the high and slight burnout. Smoking also put's me on my ass where as vaping usually gets me giggly and talkative.

    It's basically a lighter high to combustions heavier high. Both have their bonuses, and in the end you're still high.

  14. haha yeah essentially to make it simple
  15. i used to cough up brown speckled mucous everyday from smoking, when i woke up, in the shower, and random times throughout the day.

    been using the vape everyday since about 2009 and don't cough up anything anymore.
  16. I think we need a vape subforum and Iwien should be the mod.
  17. Cool,
    I have the Extreme Q 4.0 and its awesome.
    Glad to hear how much more healthier it is, but we do roll blunts
  18. I find with good weed you can vape it then bong it with the stuff you have just vaped (the AVB) and get two strong and different types of high peace420 GG
  19. I wish everybody could experience a good vape.

    Everytime i let a new person try my silver surfer they always say the same thing:

    I cant feel the vapor go in but it tastes so good.
    Vaporizing is basically flavored air, its not hot at all and you wont even feel it most likely.

    For me, vaporizing wins automatically because when vaping indoors it doesnt stink so you wont bother anybody at all.

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